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Old 02-28-2008, 02:03 PM
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I was coming from a friends house and stopped at the gas station, when this Green 08 Viper pulls right behind me. We immediately engage in coversation about each other's vehicles. He also said he loved my plates "V-10 BTR" So I thought I would ask if he wanted to do a couple of hwy runs for fun. He said yes to my surprise, maybe I shouldn't have stereotyped the older gentleman. So we head out to I-5 and go from about a 45 roll. 3rd honk & he jumps about a half car, bang 2nd and we are neck and neck, hit 3rd we are within inches of each other and slow at about 130 or so with me up by a half car. Next race was from same speed but he missed 3rd. 3rd race was from about 30mph. 3rd honk he jumps me half car immediately, I hit 2nd I inch up but no gain really, 3rd I'm side by side with him, 4th he is starting to pull about 4ft(nose) on me. we shut down at like 145 150ish. It was alot of fun to see both cars asses shake on the hard shifts, trying to get our 345's to stick to the pavement. It was also really hard to see who was faster, because I think I was a better driver than he was, only because I have had my car for almost a year, him 3 weeks. Well we actually got out and talked for about an hour, and we are going to take some driving lessons(road racing) together in May.
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Sounds like some great runs. I bet you won't run into another brand new viper that wants to run any time soon. lol
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Originally Posted by LS1SS01
Sounds like some great runs. I bet you won't run into another brand new viper that wants to run any time soon. lol

Yeah I was really surprised! Those things are torque monsters with 600hp to boot!!! And it also sounds a lot better than the older SRT's. I actually loved the color too!
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Awesome post! Thanks for sharing this one!!
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Do the new Vipers have 600HP?
If so You did real well.
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Originally Posted by SmaknaSS
Do the new Vipers have 600HP?
If so You did real well.
YUP! But I have a little weight advantage.
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Originally Posted by artist71
Awesome post! Thanks for sharing this one!!

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Actually if you read the reviews the new Viper is only slightly faster then the Z06. Even when Danicka Patrick test drove it she said it sounded faster then it was...and she expected more from the top end.
Someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong about this.
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Nice runs!
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Originally Posted by artist71
Actually if you read the reviews the new Viper is only slightly faster then the Z06. Even when Danicka Patrick test drove it she said it sounded faster then it was...and she expected more from the top end.
Someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong about this.
Perhaps.

The big thing with the new Viper is that they finnaly went and worried about upper RPM power in stock form. The thing has one of the coolest VVT cam-in-block systems ever. Its almost like two cams in one, with independently rotating cams inside each other. Which is the big reason the thing gets more HP. All HP is, is high RPM TQ. The reason the old Viper would loose to a C6Z without at least decent bolt-ons was that it had all this TQ that just petered out in the upper revs versus the Z which can wind gears out to redline really effectively. Thats the real reason C6Zs are so fast. Mid 400WHP small blocks have been around for a long damn time. Mid 400s WHP small blocks that have that broad a powerband in the uper revs are something new and prettty freakin cool. Same thing for the Viper now. Looking forward to some awesome battles. Till the ZR1 comes along at least.
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Originally Posted by SShark
YUP! But I have a little weight advantage.

Slap a few bolt-ons with the money saved from buying the Z and say night night to the Viper! Z06 IMO is a way tighter car.
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Something is not right. There have been a couple of Viper threads and no Killemall in any of them. Maybe someone should post a Viper gets beat by a Honda that might bring him out of hiding.

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He sounds like a nice guy to have a few runs with. Taking driving lessons together after racing, thats pretty cool if you ask me. Great sportsmanship. Nice runs. Great story.
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Wow great runs OP.I don't think I would have done that well if I ran him.I gotta really learn to drive this car
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you better be carefull when he learns to drive that things espically with mods the new ones are trapping 137+ with headers, exhaus,t intake and a tune.
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Good runs. You did very well and sounds like u made a friend.
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Originally Posted by wicked-98
Wow great runs OP.I don't think I would have done that well if I ran him.I gotta really learn to drive this car
Thanks! These cars are not the easiest to drive I must admit. How many miles have you put on yours? I'm at 9000.

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you better be carefull when he learns to drive that things espically with mods the new ones are trapping 137+ with headers, exhaus,t intake and a tune.
I know, I have been keeping up with Hennessy's progress. But I have been deciding if I want H/C/I or FI. SO that should keep me in the ball game

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Good runs. You did very well and sounds like u made a friend.
I did, he actually just came by my work & introduced me to his buddy. They rolled up back to back Viper & my dream car Ford GT
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Originally Posted by SShark
I did, he actually just came by my work & introduced me to his buddy. They rolled up back to back Viper & my dream car Ford GT
You guys should all get together and post some vids. It would be cool to see all 3 run together with average joe drivers at the wheel.
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The vipers biggest weakness is its stupidly long final drive ratio.

3.07 I think it is.

Once they change that to 3.50s or 3.73s, the vette is all done, and I'm a vette guy
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Originally Posted by sciff5
The vipers biggest weakness is its stupidly long final drive ratio.

3.07 I think it is.

Once they change that to 3.50s or 3.73s, the vette is all done, and I'm a vette guy
Except that if they do that they had better be ready with some serious rubber and suspension. Lots of newbie rich people will be killing themselfs with say a set 3.73s. That much TQ off idle is a big deal. Traction controll is kinda anathema to the Viper philosophy, which I find cool. On the other hand it does explain the 3.07s. I think a 3.23 would be pretty good, or like you said a 3.42. Maybe an option for them



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