fbodyman1026

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I went out cruising last night on gratiot( cruise place on a sat. night) and got into a couple of races. 99 t/a auto 45k 3.23 rear
1st- 96 cobra conv. w/ exhaust, went from a 25-70 2 cars
2nd- 94 cobra w/ full-bolt ons, dig to 60ish, a solid bus lengththen he shut down cause it was way over but i really out timed him off the light.
3rd- 05+ mustang gt w/ exhaust 5sd, 30-130( way to fast for me lol...and he kept going) i pulled 1.5 cars up to 80 then held that the rest of the way. i had my windows down though he didnt i think that held me back once we were going faster

so i think this seems pretty close to the avg. ls1, let me know what you think im going to the track Wednesday!

Irunelevens

Sounds about dead on... good runs, and good luck at the track.

Badguy7

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Good kills, just watch out for those modded 05+ GT's. Those might get you, since your still stock.

ICEMAN 31

I am surprised that you did not start pulling more at 89, its around the 70 - 80 marker where I pull the hardest on stock 05+ gts

fbodyman1026

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thanks i hope to run 13.4-13.6 since i raced my buddies 01' cobra that runs13.3-13.4 and i saty pretty much dead even with him up to 100.


well in that last run he had a slight advantage since i had an an extra guy in my car and windows down(drag effect idk) o yeah i forget that our headlights must cost us something also lmfao

DoggyB22

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i dont know the new GT are not that fast. ive raced them from a dig n a 30 mph roll n i killed them...? im pretty much stock to???

Irunelevens

They're still low-mid 13s cars in capable hands, so I'm not sure what your definition of "killed" is. A comparable F-body *should* still win, but you need to bring your A game if it's a 6spd F-body vs. a 3.55-geared 5spd GT.

ICEMAN 31

to bad those capable hands are so few in far between that they make up about 2 percent of mustangs out there. On average or I should say above average they are high 13 cars.

Irunelevens

And I would say if you can't run mid-high 13s in a new GT 5spd, you need driving lessons

brian06eleanor

1 car length is not killed lol

ICEMAN 31

well I am about stock and close to his mods (minus the drags radials) and I get about 6 lenghts I am assuming on average at the track i run 12.9 - 13.0 and they are always running 13.6, 13.7 with catback and cai. i could see how its not "killing"....maybe "bullying"

PharmD2010

This has long been debated over and over. Stock vs stock, yes, an LS1 should definitely pull an 05+ GT. But the issue here is that the 05+ GT's respond very well to mods. So a lightly modded (say a CAI and a tune) vs. a stock LS1 should be pretty close. But start modding the LS1, and it's over for the 05+ GT. Believe me, these 05+ GT's run really strong, a lot stronger than the 99-04 GT's. I have seen several 05+ GT's going low-mid 13's BONE STOCK. Some guys are hitting 12's with a few bolt-ons and sticky tires. I would say that's territory for a stock or lightly modded LS1 anyday. Both are great cars though!!!

ICEMAN 31

i will settle for that...agreed

brian06eleanor

very well put!

kennyxg

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Yes sir, Yes sir!!

fbodyman1026

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i agree also, i think i remember watching pass time and an 05+ gt with only a cai ran 13.1

LSWONGTO

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I think the 05gt (sn197) isn,t as aerodynamic as a F-body but they are nice cars.

DoggyB22

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dude not to be an *** but read the post again.... i never said anything about 1 car length. thats his race. when i raced a GT i killed it...?
the race was against a 2006 mustang gt manual with exhaust and no cats. went from a 30mph roll n instantly pulled on him.


yea. to me 6 lengths is pretty bad and considered a kill...but like said above. with "mods" on a new mustang gt they do, do quite good. but yea not enough for an ls1. anyway dont wanna lose focus of the main point of this thread

2k05gt

With a CAI and Tune (the CAI requires a tune because of the larger MAF housing) Can run 13.1 with a capable driver and an exceptional drive they have touched 12's.

I have seen several S197s hit consistant 12.8s with suspension work only (Plus Intake and Tune).
Weak points on the S197 are the Lower Control Arms have poor bushings and flex like mad. the Drive shaft is a peice of ****, 65 pound 2 peice iron monster that has a ton of slop and clunks like crazy. the rear sway bar is too small. the car needs to be lowered with new springs and struts. then you will need adjustable Upper Control arms since they suck as well.

Ford did a fantastic job on the Exhaust, using high flow cats from the factory and Manderal bent 2 1/2 inch SS dual exhaust to a non restrictive axle back muffler.

2k05gt

Here's a freebee LOL