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Old 10-21-2003, 02:15 AM
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Just like it asks. I am glad I waited for front shocks, cause since I seen these things its all I can do to not order them. Tomorrow morning I will let temptation get the best of me and order order order. Just checkign for anyone already using them and how they like the Drag Version. I really never cared for the regular 12way fronts as the rebound and compression have to match, soft/soft or hard/hard.

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I have not tried them yet but I put a set of them on yesterday. I will have the car running at the Thunder Shoot out for it's first track appearance with any luck. I'll have to tell you then how they are.
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thought mine would be here today, but now monday! Drats.
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What's the difference between the Rs and the original ones?

Are you guys using stock springs? If so what exactly did you modify to make them fit.
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Can you use the F-series springs on the R shocks?
Old 10-27-2003, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by quickWS6
Can you use the F-series springs on the R shocks?
Yes the stock springs will work. I bought a set of modified springs seats from Thunder.
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Originally Posted by 2000RATA
Yes the stock springs will work. I bought a set of modified springs seats from Thunder.
Sorry, I meant the Hal F-series springs, the springs some people use on their older Hals.
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you have to cut the collars off of the de-carbons and use them on th hal's spring perches to make these work with stock or aftermarket springs. im using the prokit springs up front, w/ a Hal shock, just so you know it's been done.

Thunder sells them as well.
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The R-series sound like they are 90/10 shocks, anyone have some yet? And can they be locked into a streetable setting? 90/10's can't take long term street driving.
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From what I read, and tech talk....the R series has a fixed compression, that being relatively hard like a 90, and the **** gives adjustability of the rebound, up to a 10% effort, thus the 90/10. So, yes they can be driven daily, then turn a **** and let the weight transfer begin. I was thinking today mine would be in, but tomorrow from FedEx response (figures, Hawaii 2nd day air means about a week Brah!). As soon as I get mine, sounds like this weekend, I will post back all feedback. I got the whole kit, springs, wrench and rears ( my friend bought the rears) from Spohn Performance--->

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So the regular Hals are relatively soft on compression and the Rs are harder on compression. And that's the only difference. So it's actually better for street driving. Anyone know how the stiffness compares to stiff shocks like 1LEs or Bilstein HDs?
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Dom, No. The F series adjust with a **** in 12 diff positions, hard/hard to soft/soft but the compression(amount of force to push it down) and rebound(amount of force to extend the shocks) are changed by turning the **** but they match in every position.

On the R series, the compression is static, that being somewhat hard, and the rebuond is adjustable by itself, so you can alter the rate of rise for weight transfer. Basically tune it soft and the launch will let the front rise quickly and come down slow for nice traction.
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Originally Posted by CAT3
Dom, No. The F series adjust with a **** in 12 diff positions, hard/hard to soft/soft but the compression(amount of force to push it down) and rebound(amount of force to extend the shocks) are changed by turning the **** but they match in every position.

On the R series, the compression is static, that being somewhat hard, and the rebuond is adjustable by itself, so you can alter the rate of rise for weight transfer. Basically tune it soft and the launch will let the front rise quickly and come down slow for nice traction.
Gotcha. So you think the R series is better for drag racing?
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Uhmmm, hell yeah. Much like the CE drag shocks for the older rides (yes they have some for ours also, but only rears) but easier to adjust, turn a **** and let em lift!
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New toys are here, FedEx just dropped them off! Yippeee....Now to bust ***** tomorrow and see if I can make up enough work time to get them on! Love to run these puppies this weekend, but looks slim chance. Street testing here we go!
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Cat, I'd like to know if those new shocks can be locked or made streetable.

If those shocks are 90/10's all the time well I consider those to be race car shocks.

Stock shocks are at 50/50 just as a comparison. That is like 6 or 7 clicks on the 12 way shocks.
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John, as stated from QA1, and from Spohn Performance, the shocks compression (90 side) is set hard, so after the car trransfer the weight aft, it takes a slow ride back instead of unloading the tires quickly. The Rebound (10 side) is what the 12 ( although I counted 15) click adjustment **** is for, 1 being a 10% effort to lift the front and transfer the weight, and 12 being to match the compression, very hard for the front to lift and weight to transfer.
So, yes, they should be adjusted on a low setting only during track use, then back to mid to high for daily driving. Will write a review this Saturday night after I install and test at track.

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So the new "R"s are better if you pull a wheel (or 2 ::and you want the car to land with a stiffer rate then it took off with. Is this right? Seems like it would be better on the front end and the oil pan. This has probably been discussed but I get a little confused, Can you use the "old" Hal front springs with the R's up front and the original rear Hals?
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The springs havent changed, same spring either way. HAL Drag springs. But yes, although the front will lift easily, when you come back down it is a harder compression, or more controlled rate, therefore keepign more load on the rear tires, and trying to prevent damage to the underbelly.
I will be installing in about 12hours, Sat 10-noon. First time doing the fronts so I have to teach myself, I know the basics, most the rules of spring safety and all, just need to get my hands dirty and do it. Will launch it tomorrow and report back the verdict.
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Good thing about installing front Hals. Just set them to 0 and you don't need to mess with the spring compressor. That's how I installed a set on someones car.


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