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Old 08-03-2009, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 1FASTBIRD
Damn I learned a lot from this thread LOL
haha you probably havent.

heres the end-all be-all on drilled rotors (i wish )

DRILLED ROTORS ARE PERFECTLY SUITABLE FOR AGGRESSIVE STREET DRIVING AND WILL NOT BE A SAFETY ISSUE.

DRILLED ROTORS ARE NOT RECOMMENDED FOR TRACK/RACING USE HOWEVER IF YOU WERE TO USE THEM, YOU WONT DIE, THEY WILL JUST GET SMALL CRACKS AROUND THE HOLES. GOOD BLANKS ARE BETTER SUITED FOR THIS APPLICATION.


ok, now we can all forget this argument, right?
Old 08-03-2009, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Duffster
I've learned Echo don't like anything different or anyone who thinks outside of stock. . .
uh huh.....so me having a full suspension and C5 brakes is still stock, right?
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I'm with the rest. Read the stickies, they are crap.
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what would be the fun in reading the stickies?
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but seriously, i may just look at good blanks and pads.
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I have some cheap drilled/slotted (on the car when I bought it) and I WON't get them again.

They are total crap, warped like crazy, small cracks, etc.

Brake manufatures themselves say they do drill/slots just for looks alone, that is it! If you look at the physics/thermodynamics it makes sense why it is only cosmetic.

The best option is blanks then dimples -> slots -> drilled.

I will be going with brembo blanks or ATE rotors when I get around to it.
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ok so looks like brembo and ate are the popular choices.
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I thought it was funny that Tirerack has a disclaimer on the expensive drilled slotted Brembo rotors that states you shouldn't use them for track use.

I've seen someone recently on my local forums shoot a picture of a Brembo drilled slotted rotor from their daily driver where a crack goes right across the whole side of his rotor.
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There's a not great photo (sorry it was taken with a phone) on the front page of my website showing a big crack in cheap rotor, one that was not drilled but slotted only. The crack doesn't even eminate from a slot--just a cheap rotor in general.

If the slotting is done well and correctly and uses a good rotor (all of which are issues with various rotors) then it's much better than drilling as we aren't exactly playing with rotors that were built with drilling in mine (even from Brembo) in stock sizes. One reason I'm using mostly ATE's now is they are "slotted" in a not normal way. There no points to act as stress risers, and the rotors have proven to be very tough too. And the slots are shallow not nearly as deep as others which maintains the intregrity of the rotor better. And they are coated too.
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where do i get ate's?
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Originally Posted by Duffster
okay 'Scooter' heres your cast iron Ferrari F360 brake rotors with drilled holes...

Apples to apples.

Ferrari is a better car than our F-bodies, now take your theories and move along.



Then why doesn't Ferrari use them on their race cars?
F430-R

What about Ferrari's F1 cars?
Nope...

Mclaren's F1 car:


Pagani Zonda-R

Murcielago-R

C6-R
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nothing wrong with delcos, duralast or OEMs...some like to spring for the brembo blanks.

Honestly take your pick...just dont over pay.
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Originally Posted by EchoMirage
a 'deal'? youd have to shop around and hope you find someone running a sale. otherwise, prices will be pretty similar, once you work out shipping charges. tirerack has all 4 ATE slotted for $354.

Yeah and so does Strano Performance, have ATE's for $354 a set---and we actually come 'round these forums.....
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
Then why doesn't Ferrari use them on their race cars?
And every one of those you pointed out appear to be carbon fiber, so trying to placate the other guy I compared iron to iron after initially showing carbon fiber for the ZR1. . .
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Originally Posted by Duffster
And every one of those you pointed out appear to be carbon fiber, so trying to placate the other guy I compared iron to iron after initially showing carbon fiber for the ZR1. . .
The F430 GTC's rotors are cast iron, the others are carbon ceramic.
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so what are some of you guys using then?

strano, i'm gonna check out your website.
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Now that your total confused with everybodys opinion.Call Sam Strano and talk to him and see what he thinks you should use.He doesn't try to oversell you,and generally he's a good guy.I have bought a lot of things from him and respect his opinion.Ask 20 people their opinion and you get 20 different answers.
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i've noticed. lol
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ok, I have made up my mind on the whole drilled/slotted vs blanks debate, but I am wondering about what is the best kind of pads to use. Conventional wisdom tells me ceramic, but we have all seen what conventional wisdome gets us sometimes...


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