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Old 04-26-2011, 12:37 AM
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Like the title says. I'm going to be doing SFC, and adjustable PHB, and a STB on my '95...should I wait to put any of these things on until after I get an alignment done?

I'm getting an alignment next week, but have the day off tomorrow and was hoping I could put some of/all of these parts on tomorrow if I could if alignment wouldn't effect them.

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In my opinion it would make sense to get it alligned after you get that stuff on. With the new adjustable pieces they could probably dial them in for you.
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honestly, with the parts listed, it shouldn't matter.....the STB is the only thing going on the front of the car where most f-body alignments are done, and it doesn't change the ride height at all. the rear of the car doesn't require a "traditional" alignment, being a solid rear axle & all....and centering the rear axle with an adjustable PHB is easy enough to do yourself in about 30 mins or less. the only thing that would possibly cause an alignment issue is the SFC's....if the body is a bit twisted, it should be straightened out before welding them in if it's done right, which could potentially cause an alignment issue. even then, it's a bit of a stretch.
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^Thats what I was thinking...I think im going to hold off on the SFC's till at least next week anyway...

STB and panhard go on tomorrow then

They're easy enough to re-do if necessary...
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Agreed, the parts shouldn't matter. I suppose the SFC's potentially "could" affect something, but even then it's pretty unlikely.
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The only thing that will affect the alignment will be the adjustable panhard bar the rest of the parts will do absolutely nothing to the alignment. You can get away without doing an alignment with the adjustable panhard bar if you set it up to the length of the stock panhard bar.
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I have 315's on the back of my car, and Im pretty certain the rear is off center. If I were to put my new adjustable panhard on, and center the rear end, then in theory the only alignment that should have to be done would be in the front end of the car, correct?
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Originally Posted by MasterTomos
I have 315's on the back of my car, and Im pretty certain the rear is off center. If I were to put my new adjustable panhard on, and center the rear end, then in theory the only alignment that should have to be done would be in the front end of the car, correct?
If you centered the rear end using the panhard bar then you would really only need to do the front but I would still have them check the rear end when you have the alignment done just to make sure the rear end centered where it should be.
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Originally Posted by 02Z28LS1
if the body is a bit twisted, it should be straightened out before welding them in if it's done right, which could potentially cause an alignment issue. even then, it's a bit of a stretch.
which is why it's recommended that they be installed with the suspension loaded, because then they strengthen the car in the exact position it sits
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Originally Posted by therealcreeper
which is why it's recommended that they be installed with the suspension loaded, because then they strengthen the car in the exact position it sits
This is 100% correct and true statement, you always want to weld the subframe connectors with the suspension loaded.
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I think this is an important point, but shops like Speed Inc. who is even a sponsor here, will weld SFRs using only a two-post lift and tell you that (ask me how I know):
"We have never had an issue doing the SFC's as we do. We support the frame evenly per side and the car sits level / true by doing so."


So what kinds of issues can arise from not welding with a loaded suspension?

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This is 100% correct and true statement, you always want to weld the subframe connectors with the suspension loaded.

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^Ive also wondered about that, bump
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if a shop can't/won't weld them in with the wheels on the ground, it's time to find another shop....end of story

i mean, unless you just don't care whether or not it's 100% right
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Originally Posted by libertyforall1776
I think this is an important point, but shops like Speed Inc. who is even a sponsor here, will weld SFRs using only a two-post lift and tell you that (ask me how I know):
"We have never had an issue doing the SFC's as we do. We support the frame evenly per side and the car sits level / true by doing so."


So what kinds of issues can arise from not welding with a loaded suspension?
Without the suspension loaded and the chassis sitting in its natural position there is a chance that the chassis could be tweaked into an unnatural position if the subframe connectors are welded this way.
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