New rotors pads feel like they slide instead of grab
05-19-2011, 01:10 PM
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New rotors pads feel like they slide instead of grab About 2,000 miles ago, I replaced all four rotors and pads to Napa premium blanks and Hawk HPS pads. After installation, I followed the proper brake pad break in procedure and noticed they didn't feel like they stopped a whole lot better.
Why does it feel like every other car I drive has brakes that grab harder than I have? Should I have spent the extra money on better rotors?
Why does it feel like every other car I drive has brakes that grab harder than I have? Should I have spent the extra money on better rotors?
05-19-2011, 01:55 PM
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I sord of feel the same way about my rotor/pads. I replaced them all about two months ago with crossdrilled/slotted rotors and pads from PowerStop/Brakemotive and feel like the brakes before those were better, might just be me though.
05-19-2011, 02:46 PM
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Stainless steel lines are better than stock becuase they are stronger. Instead of flexing a lot they transfer the pressure better to the brakes giving you better pedal feel and stopping power.
05-19-2011, 04:37 PM
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^^yup. Our stock brake lines are rubber, and when pressure is applied through them they flex, giving your pedal more of a squishy feeling. Stainless steel will not flex, giving you a much more instantaneous reaction when you apply the brake.
05-19-2011, 04:40 PM
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Something is wrong with your install or hydraulics then. Keep in mind for the first several hundred miles they may feel less grabby as they fully bed in. But after about 400+ miles they should be noticeably more responsive. I would flush and bleed your system before drawing any final conclusions.
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05-19-2011, 08:41 PM
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Something is wrong with your install or hydraulics then. Keep in mind for the first several hundred miles they may feel less grabby as they fully bed in. But after about 400+ miles they should be noticeably more responsive. I would flush and bleed your system before drawing any final conclusions.
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05-19-2011, 10:19 PM
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Idk, it might just be me, the brakes are fine though, had the same set up on my old V6 with no problem. The thing that's weird is if I do a hard brake it feels like the brakes are grinding or something, hard to explain. Regular braking and everything else is fine, it's just when I go fast and have to do a hard stop it feels odd.
I was driving my friends 2004 CRV and the brakes are a complete different story, and he only uses standard parts too. You can really feel the g force as the car slows down. I WANT THAT!
05-19-2011, 11:09 PM
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Idk, it might just be me, the brakes are fine though, had the same set up on my old V6 with no problem. The thing that's weird is if I do a hard brake it feels like the brakes are grinding or something, hard to explain. Regular braking and everything else is fine, it's just when I go fast and have to do a hard stop it feels odd.
05-19-2011, 11:47 PM
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What about pad heat? I am under the understanding that hawk pads like to be hot to grab fast. The last time I went into a sequence of turns I felt my peddle get hard like it wanted to get stomped on and it was very responsive.
05-20-2011, 08:56 AM
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boricua - Have you done the recommended break in procedure yet?
05-20-2011, 10:01 AM
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I think I did my brake job right: I lubed the outside of all the pads and pins, clamped the calipers to bed the pads in, had the brake fluid cap off while doing the whole brake job and after the job I pumped the gas pedal a few times to make it official.
But I think 01ssreda4 explained it.
But I think 01ssreda4 explained it.
05-20-2011, 07:37 PM
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How does the abs feel in your opinion.
I feel like when I have to make a hard stop, ill press the brake hard and its almost like the piston lets go or something like this. It keeps me from stopping as fast as I need to sometimes.
Idk, it dosent feel right. I just did pads, rotors, and just had a bleed/flush job done today and it still does it. If this is the way its suposed to be then these brakes on these cars suck ***.
I feel like when I have to make a hard stop, ill press the brake hard and its almost like the piston lets go or something like this. It keeps me from stopping as fast as I need to sometimes.
Idk, it dosent feel right. I just did pads, rotors, and just had a bleed/flush job done today and it still does it. If this is the way its suposed to be then these brakes on these cars suck ***.
05-21-2011, 08:51 PM
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It sounds to me like you are. This is a classic issue with all GM calipers I've ever seen where the slider pins are seized or not lubed properly. If you look at the pins on our cars, they will have flat spots on them from wear. After a certain amount of abuse, they start to be come square in some places and no amount of grease will make them work. So, new pins may even be in order.
05-21-2011, 09:49 PM
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I think I did my brake job right: I lubed the outside of all the pads and pins, clamped the calipers to bed the pads in, had the brake fluid cap off while doing the whole brake job and after the job I pumped the gas pedal a few times to make it official.
But I think 01ssreda4 explained it.
But I think 01ssreda4 explained it.