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Old 12-07-2012, 09:29 PM
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Ordered a 35mm front sway bar from Sam Strano last Thursday, got here yesterday and I put it on today. Immediately when I opened the package I was impressed. This is a beefy bar, but surprisingly lighter than what I was expecting. Comes with the bushings, the bushing "clamps" (not sure what to call them?), and new endlinks. These endlinks are ****** beefy too. My old 32mm bar had Energy Suspension endlinks, which were a 13mm bolt and nut; the ones that Strano sends out have an 11/16" bolt and nut (which is between a 17mm and 18mm, to give a comparison).

I got the old bar off and the new one installed in about 45 minutes (I have access to a drive on lift). The difference was immediately noticeable. I took the car on a "spirited" drive on a curvy road and it handles beautifully. The front feels like it has a lot more grip and responds very well when you start turning the wheel.

I will admit that I did not get the 22mm rear bar that Sam suggest, but plan on buying it here soon. When taking some tighter turns you could tell that the car wasn't quite balanced with the 19mm rear bar I have right now.

Just felt the need to give Sam a shout out since I'm yet to get bad advice or a low quality product from him.
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3rd gen V8 fbodies came with a 23mm rear bar that will fit your car - I found one in a scrap yard for $6 with bushings

...just to hold you over til you can swing the lighter Strano unit
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Is that all V8 3rd gens? The JY here sells sway bars for $15.

I don't have an autox event until February or March, so I'm not in a big rush to get one. lol
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...the later years

just measure - 23mm is a little under an inch
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23mm was one bar that came on 3rd gens. So was 18, 19, and 24... The fact is solid 23 is IMHO too stiff (and about double the weight) and of course no new bushings and links either.

If you were to try the junkyard route find a solid 21mm instead, though the same issues exist.
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I just saw this 2 weeks later. lol.

I'm planning on getting your 22mm here soon, work has consumed me since I got the 35mm and things are finally settling down.

The more I drive this car with this front bar the more I love it. Wish I would have skipped the 32mm and went straight to this 35...
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I've got both his bars. Good pieces. I just need to get rid of that damn eibach/bilstein kit and get some good wheels and tires on the car so I can push it.

And you'll need to rear bar or the car is too loose. The matching bar in the rear didn't make mine want to over-steer as much.
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How much does this front bar weigh?
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whats the price on the front bar with all the bushings
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I didn't weigh the bar before I installed it, so hopefully Sam answers that.

and the bar was like $210 shipped to my front door. Sam will advise you to just go ahead and get both because it saves like $20 in shipping, I just needed to buy in 2 steps. lol
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I have both of Sam's bars and like them well worth the money.
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do aa few millimeters on the sway bar make that much of a difference
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A massive difference. Being a torsion bar, you take the diameter and multiply it to the 4th power. Not times 4, to the 4th power. And because of that, the bigger the bar is, the more difference every mm of diameter makes.
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So to put that in raw numbers...

32^4 = 1048576

35^4 = 1500625

That measly 3mm difference ends up being quite a lot.

I don't know all the physics and math behind torsion bars, but I just did that out of curiosity after reading Sam's post. Whoa.
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Amazing isn't it? Here's one for you: C6 Corvette fronts. A solid 35mm front bar is 12% softer than a 38mm hollow bar with 4mm wall tubing (I use a 6.25mm wall on the Camaro front bar just for reference to maximize the stiffness while minimizing weight).
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damnit these threads keep popping up about sams bars....

if i hadn't just spend a boatload of money on christmas, I'd probably buy them for myself.

Oh well, good birthday present for my birthday next month
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano View Post
Amazing isn't it? Here's one for you: C6 Corvette fronts. A solid 35mm front bar is 12% softer than a 38mm hollow bar with 4mm wall tubing (I use a 6.25mm wall on the Camaro front bar just for reference to maximize the stiffness while minimizing weight).
What do your bars weigh Sam? each
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano View Post
Amazing isn't it? Here's one for you: C6 Corvette fronts. A solid 35mm front bar is 12% softer than a 38mm hollow bar with 4mm wall tubing (I use a 6.25mm wall on the Camaro front bar just for reference to maximize the stiffness while minimizing weight).
Mind = blown

This is why you do this stuff and not me
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver View Post
What do your bars weigh Sam? each
Front bar is about 17 or 18, rear is around 5. Hardware adds some, but all bars need it and the boxes too which are 56x21x3" each. Front bar ships at under 22 pounds with all that stuff, rear @ 10.
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I was trying to decide if i want to buy a new ATI dampner or the Strano Hollow sway bars with my Christmas money. I think I'm gonna get the sway bars!
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