RESULTS: BMR vs Strano ride height!
05-07-2013, 12:16 PM
#81
Did the OP drive the car to settle the springs before measuring?
Just because a spring is taller not installed means nothing, spring rate and weight of the car sitting on the springs determines ride height.
Sam is a no bullshit dude, he doesn't have time to pet you to buy his parts. His parts works plain and simple, he develops parts for these cars to be USED... not to be put in a car show. If you want the car to "sit" a certain way, buy cheap *** springs.
No car will sit "square" ......production tolerances and many other variables determine this, no two cars are exactly alike.
Sam will continue to get my business because he has a proven product for what my car is actually used for, trackdays.
There is a reason he stays covered up, he is a one man band with a wealth of knowledge and parts that work in a race environment.
Want "stance"? Call JDM or some other ricer joint, want your car to turn, call Sam.
Just because a spring is taller not installed means nothing, spring rate and weight of the car sitting on the springs determines ride height.
Sam is a no bullshit dude, he doesn't have time to pet you to buy his parts. His parts works plain and simple, he develops parts for these cars to be USED... not to be put in a car show. If you want the car to "sit" a certain way, buy cheap *** springs.
No car will sit "square" ......production tolerances and many other variables determine this, no two cars are exactly alike.
Sam will continue to get my business because he has a proven product for what my car is actually used for, trackdays.
There is a reason he stays covered up, he is a one man band with a wealth of knowledge and parts that work in a race environment.
Want "stance"? Call JDM or some other ricer joint, want your car to turn, call Sam.
05-07-2013, 01:16 PM
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So there you go. A quality control mistake (it happens) but a supplier unwilling to at least swap out a part on good faith. I don't have an issue with the former but the latter will cost some sales I'm sure.
For example, I have a brake set on my '69 and the bearings on one side failed recently with 8000 miles on them. Called up the supplier and told them what happened and that I needed a new spindle, rotor, and bearings to make the repair. Also mentioned that I might want another set of bearings to change out the other side just in case. Two days later on my door step were TWO new spindles, TWO new rotors, TWO sets of bearings, and a full set of brake pads all along with a paid shipping label to send back the bad parts so they could inspect them.
I realize that not every small business can afford that type of service, but if 800 sets of springs have been sold surely it could afford to eat one set. You can at least do like Amazon and send out a replacement with authorization to charge again if the returnable part is not received by them.
For example, I have a brake set on my '69 and the bearings on one side failed recently with 8000 miles on them. Called up the supplier and told them what happened and that I needed a new spindle, rotor, and bearings to make the repair. Also mentioned that I might want another set of bearings to change out the other side just in case. Two days later on my door step were TWO new spindles, TWO new rotors, TWO sets of bearings, and a full set of brake pads all along with a paid shipping label to send back the bad parts so they could inspect them.
I realize that not every small business can afford that type of service, but if 800 sets of springs have been sold surely it could afford to eat one set. You can at least do like Amazon and send out a replacement with authorization to charge again if the returnable part is not received by them.
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05-07-2013, 01:19 PM
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From what it looked like to me, the OP had waited a long time for the springs to settle. I'd say he had things installed correctly. I'm guessing it's possible he got a bad batch together... really low probability of that, but I'm sure it's possible. That was about an inch higher than the average drop for strano springs.
This being said, I still would not hesitate to recommend Strano springs to anyone. They are still the best out there and I think this could happen with any spring. Except in most cases the springs drop too low.
This being said, I still would not hesitate to recommend Strano springs to anyone. They are still the best out there and I think this could happen with any spring. Except in most cases the springs drop too low.
05-07-2013, 01:29 PM
#86
Did the OP drive the car to settle the springs before measuring?
Just because a spring is taller not installed means nothing, spring rate and weight of the car sitting on the springs determines ride height.
Sam is a no bullshit dude, he doesn't have time to pet you to buy his parts. His parts works plain and simple, he develops parts for these cars to be USED... not to be put in a car show. If you want the car to "sit" a certain way, buy cheap *** springs.
No car will sit "square" ......production tolerances and many other variables determine this, no two cars are exactly alike.
Sam will continue to get my business because he has a proven product for what my car is actually used for, trackdays.
There is a reason he stays covered up, he is a one man band with a wealth of knowledge and parts that work in a race environment.
Want "stance"? Call JDM or some other ricer joint, want your car to turn, call Sam.
Just because a spring is taller not installed means nothing, spring rate and weight of the car sitting on the springs determines ride height.
Sam is a no bullshit dude, he doesn't have time to pet you to buy his parts. His parts works plain and simple, he develops parts for these cars to be USED... not to be put in a car show. If you want the car to "sit" a certain way, buy cheap *** springs.
No car will sit "square" ......production tolerances and many other variables determine this, no two cars are exactly alike.
Sam will continue to get my business because he has a proven product for what my car is actually used for, trackdays.
There is a reason he stays covered up, he is a one man band with a wealth of knowledge and parts that work in a race environment.
Want "stance"? Call JDM or some other ricer joint, want your car to turn, call Sam.
Now, quality might be different and over time one might sag or whatever, but the Strano springs certainly are taller, even when compressed and that seems suspect to me as a QC issue. If anything, the BMR springs will end up lower once everything settles, since the Stranos have been on the car for a while.
05-07-2013, 04:02 PM
#87
Did the OP drive the car to settle the springs before measuring?
Just because a spring is taller not installed means nothing, spring rate and weight of the car sitting on the springs determines ride height.
Sam is a no bullshit dude, he doesn't have time to pet you to buy his parts. His parts works plain and simple, he develops parts for these cars to be USED... not to be put in a car show. If you want the car to "sit" a certain way, buy cheap *** springs.
No car will sit "square" ......production tolerances and many other variables determine this, no two cars are exactly alike.
Sam will continue to get my business because he has a proven product for what my car is actually used for, trackdays.
There is a reason he stays covered up, he is a one man band with a wealth of knowledge and parts that work in a race environment.
Want "stance"? Call JDM or some other ricer joint, want your car to turn, call Sam.
Just because a spring is taller not installed means nothing, spring rate and weight of the car sitting on the springs determines ride height.
Sam is a no bullshit dude, he doesn't have time to pet you to buy his parts. His parts works plain and simple, he develops parts for these cars to be USED... not to be put in a car show. If you want the car to "sit" a certain way, buy cheap *** springs.
No car will sit "square" ......production tolerances and many other variables determine this, no two cars are exactly alike.
Sam will continue to get my business because he has a proven product for what my car is actually used for, trackdays.
There is a reason he stays covered up, he is a one man band with a wealth of knowledge and parts that work in a race environment.
Want "stance"? Call JDM or some other ricer joint, want your car to turn, call Sam.
What you have posted just does not make sense. The spring is taller. No settling time will make it shorter, basic high school physics. The guy did not stood up to help the OP and has said nothing about what happened. The guy has a quality control issue but he just chooses to deny it and attack his customer. You are the prototype who gets all starry eyed and impressed when he starts with all his yada-yada. Good for you. If things turn out as I suspect hurry up and but all his products, these type of customer service can only go so far. Funny how you just repeat everything he says instead of thinking....a little.
05-07-2013, 04:07 PM
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So there you go. A quality control mistake (it happens) but a supplier unwilling to at least swap out a part on good faith. I don't have an issue with the former but the latter will cost some sales I'm sure.
For example, I have a brake set on my '69 and the bearings on one side failed recently with 8000 miles on them. Called up the supplier and told them what happened and that I needed a new spindle, rotor, and bearings to make the repair. Also mentioned that I might want another set of bearings to change out the other side just in case. Two days later on my door step were TWO new spindles, TWO new rotors, TWO sets of bearings, and a full set of brake pads all along with a paid shipping label to send back the bad parts so they could inspect them.
I realize that not every small business can afford that type of service, but if 800 sets of springs have been sold surely it could afford to eat one set. You can at least do like Amazon and send out a replacement with authorization to charge again if the returnable part is not received by them.
For example, I have a brake set on my '69 and the bearings on one side failed recently with 8000 miles on them. Called up the supplier and told them what happened and that I needed a new spindle, rotor, and bearings to make the repair. Also mentioned that I might want another set of bearings to change out the other side just in case. Two days later on my door step were TWO new spindles, TWO new rotors, TWO sets of bearings, and a full set of brake pads all along with a paid shipping label to send back the bad parts so they could inspect them.
I realize that not every small business can afford that type of service, but if 800 sets of springs have been sold surely it could afford to eat one set. You can at least do like Amazon and send out a replacement with authorization to charge again if the returnable part is not received by them.
05-07-2013, 05:41 PM
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Thought has crossed my mind also. I have been pointing this guy out for some years now and the nutswingers loved to trash me around, even he personally; that is why Im waiting on any explanation to what appears to be quality control issues. Strano should excuse himself for the way he treated the OP.
05-07-2013, 06:28 PM
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Thought has crossed my mind also. I have been pointing this guy out for some years now and the nutswingers loved to trash me around, even he personally; that is why Im waiting on any explanation to what appears to be quality control issues. Strano should excuse himself for the way he treated the OP.
05-07-2013, 06:39 PM
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Thought has crossed my mind also. I have been pointing this guy out for some years now and the nutswingers loved to trash me around, even he personally; that is why Im waiting on any explanation to what appears to be quality control issues. Strano should excuse himself for the way he treated the OP.
Maybe you need to just chill out a bit because let's be honest, you aren't helping anything.
05-07-2013, 07:05 PM
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I think it may be reactionary because you're always on the offense against him. You don't come across as someone trying to help, but rather as someone with an axe to grind, and that rubs a lot of people the wrong way.
Maybe you need to just chill out a bit because let's be honest, you aren't helping anything.
Maybe you need to just chill out a bit because let's be honest, you aren't helping anything.
I help a lot of guys here most of them by PM (in fact some were actually telling me how they have experience problems with these springs), I just dont start a thread about it or ask guys to start threads to worship me....like Strano. If that "rubs' you the wrong way, could care less. I didnt saw you talking **** when the nutswingers loved to attack the few who dared question him....go play the hero someplace else.
05-07-2013, 07:20 PM
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I am not "desperately trying to defend" anyone or trying to play a hero. Hardly. I am however just rather irritated by your constant attacks, regardless of whether he deserves it or not, and how you automatically rip into anyone who doesn't follow your lead of shredding him.
Like I said, just chill out and stop with the drama.
Like I said, just chill out and stop with the drama.
05-07-2013, 08:12 PM
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I am not "desperately trying to defend" anyone or trying to play a hero. Hardly. I am however just rather irritated by your constant attacks, regardless of whether he deserves it or not, and how you automatically rip into anyone who doesn't follow your lead of shredding him.
Like I said, just chill out and stop with the drama.
Like I said, just chill out and stop with the drama.
05-07-2013, 08:25 PM
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Thought has crossed my mind also. I have been pointing this guy out for some years now and the nutswingers loved to trash me around, even he personally; that is why Im waiting on any explanation to what appears to be quality control issues. Strano should excuse himself for the way he treated the OP.
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