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Old 03-24-2014, 01:05 AM
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the PO installed c5 calipers on my 00 SS and im going back to stock to run my 15" weld rts wheels. so here's my checklist I need to go back to stock, jw if im missing something.

new spindles (since the one mounting ear was cut off for the c5 bracket to fit
calipers/rotors
pads

Anything else? also what does a used c5 front brake kit go for since mine will be for sale soon lol.
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Technically the C5 calipers are the same physical size as Fbody's, so you wouldn't *need* to get 98-02 calipers, you could just run the C5 ones on the fbody spindle with fbody pads and rotors.

Also, if the brake line was replaced with a longer one, you may need shorter ones depending on the slack. It's obviously not good if the brake line gets caught on something lol
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I hope the stock ls1 calipers are smaller because there's noo way that my wheels (15 weld rts)will clear the corvette calipers. I even tried with a spacer and it wont sit flush. its currently on factory 17" chrome zr1's.

looking for a cost effective way to making these wheels fit without buying drag brakes.
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Originally Posted by GiggleJuiced_SS
I hope the stock ls1 calipers are smaller because there's noo way that my wheels (15 weld rts)will clear the corvette calipers. I even tried with a spacer and it wont sit flush. its currently on factory 17" chrome zr1's.

looking for a cost effective way to making these wheels fit without buying drag brakes.
The only difference between C5 calipers and 98-02 F-bodies are how the caliper is made. The physical size is the exact same.
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hmm then why don't the wheels fit
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Im not sure this has any bearing or not, but did the PO install the brake conversion bracket that goes with the c5 upgrade? If so and they are still on that might be why the wheel is still hitting. just my .02.
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It's possible that stock ls1 front calipers don't fit 15 inch wheels.. I am not 100% sure though. You may want to do a search on it.
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From looking at a few threads, I think you need either drag brakes or to grind down the stock calipers in order to fit 15 inch wheels. Here's one thread I found: https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspensio...ag-wheels.html

I think it really depends on how the wheels are cast and what wheel you are using, but 15 inch is a tight fit for stock brakes.
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Originally Posted by blue09rocket
Im not sure this has any bearing or not, but did the PO install the brake conversion bracket that goes with the c5 upgrade? If so and they are still on that might be why the wheel is still hitting. just my .02.
Yes it has the c5 brackets on it.
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Originally Posted by GiggleJuiced_SS
hmm then why don't the wheels fit
Because the rotors are 1" bigger in diameter and the caliper is sitting "farther out" from the center (closer to the inner well of the rim).

They still may not fit with stock 98-02 brakes, but you should have more room (1/2 inch hypothetically)
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Here's another thread: https://ls1tech.com/forums/wheels-ti...clearance.html
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^That's just for the rear brakes, though.
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Anyone ever put 04 gto brakes on the front? My buddy runs street lites on his with no issues
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Are these brackets the kind where you have to remove one of the ears off the spindle? If so you'll need replacement spindles to go back to a stock f-body rotor.



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Originally Posted by lees02WS6
Are these brackets the kind where you have to remove one of the ears off the spindle? If so you'll need replacement spindles to go back to a stock f-body rotor.
Yea I'm going to try some spacers and see how that goes.
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Two things: 1) the caliper sits out further due to the relo bracketry and 2) the Vette caliper actually uses more space on the front due to the raised Corvette lettering. A stock LS1 caliper on a stock LS1 spindle will provide more radial and face clearance.
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Originally Posted by JakeFusion
Two things: 1) the caliper sits out further due to the relo bracketry and 2) the Vette caliper actually uses more space on the front due to the raised Corvette lettering. A stock LS1 caliper on a stock LS1 spindle will provide more radial and face clearance.
ok well what does a used c5 setup go for? mine will be off and up for sale soon
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so I took the front wheel off to measure the rotor and it measures 13". and the spindle has been modified like the pic above. so I have a lot to replace I guess.
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Originally Posted by GiggleJuiced_SS
ok well what does a used c5 setup go for? mine will be off and up for sale soon
bump for this^ I haven't seen any used sets. it will be complete with spindles, rotors, calipers, pads etc etc
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Originally Posted by GiggleJuiced_SS
ok well what does a used c5 setup go for? mine will be off and up for sale soon
Calipers go for about $100 new each. Spindles look like they're in good condition, i'd say around $50-75 for the set. Brackets are $150-$200 new depending on the brand. Rotors are a crap shoot, any idea what brand they are? Same with pads. Could not be worth a whole lot if well-used, especially if theyre some parts store specials.

Realistically I think $250 for the whole setup would be a really fast sale. Around $350-400 if you want to sit on it. BMR and UMI both used to sell C5 swaps for 4th gens (not including spindles) for around $700-800 with new with all high performance goodies (hawk pads, choice of rotors, brand new calipers, brackets, hardware, ect.)


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