Stock SS wheels. Best brakes?
03-21-2017, 04:33 PM
#42
It has been some time since I saw the thread on the 6 and 4 piston V setups, but what is the clearance for the 6 piston CTSV brakes on an 18'' wheel. Any grinding?
03-23-2017, 10:02 AM
#44
Aint nothin but a peanut. Can you list the parts you ordered and what wheels you will be fitting up?
ARP 2.5'' studs and 1/2'' spacers are not on the list and are needed for most factory fit wheels. I believe ARP offers a 3'' stud as well but 2.5'' works to reuse the factory lug nuts and black caps. I also replaced my stock rubber lines with dorman parts H620066/67.
I had a bad hop on one of my hubs so I replaced both and pressed the arp studs in the new hubs with a hydraulic press. I wouldn't recommend hammering studs out of a factory hub.
03-23-2017, 11:10 AM
#46
Aint nothin but a peanut. Can you list the parts you ordered and what wheels you will be fitting up?
ARP 2.5'' studs and 1/2'' spacers are not on the list and are needed for most factory fit wheels. I believe ARP offers a 3'' stud as well but 2.5'' works to reuse the factory lug nuts and black caps. I also replaced my stock rubber lines with dorman parts H620066/67.
I had a bad hop on one of my hubs so I replaced both and pressed the arp studs in the new hubs with a hydraulic press. I wouldn't recommend hammering studs out of a factory hub.
ARP 2.5'' studs and 1/2'' spacers are not on the list and are needed for most factory fit wheels. I believe ARP offers a 3'' stud as well but 2.5'' works to reuse the factory lug nuts and black caps. I also replaced my stock rubber lines with dorman parts H620066/67.
I had a bad hop on one of my hubs so I replaced both and pressed the arp studs in the new hubs with a hydraulic press. I wouldn't recommend hammering studs out of a factory hub.
03-23-2017, 11:58 AM
#47
Isnt this just an OE replacement kit? Coincidentally I had slotted rotors and Hawk HP pads from ws6store - attached. The setup was good for oe replacements, but the sound they made under heavy braking was terrible. I guess my answer is-brembos are more powerful even with a small change in diameter - compared to BIG brake kits, and the pedal travel is less because brembos bite faster... This doesn't necessarily make them stronger, but they are by design and they feel nicer for street driving. IMHO The setup is functional, pad selection is larger, and tires are cheaper sticking with 17s.
Next time I have the car out I will take some more pictures.
03-23-2017, 12:29 PM
#48
Isnt this just an OE replacement kit? Coincidentally I had slotted rotors and Hawk HP pads from ws6store - attached. The setup was good for oe replacements, but the sound they made under heavy braking was terrible. I guess my answer is-brembos are more powerful even with a small change in diameter - compared to BIG brake kits, and the pedal travel is less because brembos bite faster... This doesn't necessarily make them stronger, but they are by design and they feel nicer for street driving. IMHO The setup is functional, pad selection is larger, and tires are cheaper sticking with 17s.
Next time I have the car out I will take some more pictures.
Next time I have the car out I will take some more pictures.
Last edited by 5.7stroker; 03-23-2017 at 12:34 PM.
03-23-2017, 12:46 PM
#49
Correct, the slotted rotors mentioned from ws6store is what I have now with the Hawk HP pads and surprisingly it's very quiet on my car. No squealing under heavy braking. So the brembos bite faster and feel nicer which is great, but did you notice that your time to.... say.... go from 60mph to 0mph is decreased with your new setup? It's all about stopping quicker for me. Like you, I wonder how much better the c7 z51 calipers with the 345mm rotor would do for us.
I have never bothered to time or measure the performance of the oe setup.... therefor do not have an accurate answer for you. However, I am confident enough to say that the car is now much more equipped for heavy braking. While they do look better, I only swapped for performance. Consequently, I gained another inch of track on the front of the car.
03-24-2017, 01:26 AM
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Aint nothin but a peanut. Can you list the parts you ordered and what wheels you will be fitting up?
ARP 2.5'' studs and 1/2'' spacers are not on the list and are needed for most factory fit wheels. I believe ARP offers a 3'' stud as well but 2.5'' works to reuse the factory lug nuts and black caps. I also replaced my stock rubber lines with dorman parts H620066/67.
I had a bad hop on one of my hubs so I replaced both and pressed the arp studs in the new hubs with a hydraulic press. I wouldn't recommend hammering studs out of a factory hub.
ARP 2.5'' studs and 1/2'' spacers are not on the list and are needed for most factory fit wheels. I believe ARP offers a 3'' stud as well but 2.5'' works to reuse the factory lug nuts and black caps. I also replaced my stock rubber lines with dorman parts H620066/67.
I had a bad hop on one of my hubs so I replaced both and pressed the arp studs in the new hubs with a hydraulic press. I wouldn't recommend hammering studs out of a factory hub.
acdelco brembo calipers-1722586/87 – $127.79 each rock auto
Rotors-1771155- $96.79 each rock auto
Bosch blue be1001 pads - BE1001- $17.10 rock auto
Ac delco caliper pin kit - 18K1971X – $15.61 rock auto
arp studs-ARP 100-7708- $14.88 for set of 5 jegs
Brake lines - H620066/67 Autozone but I seen amazon they are cheaper.
HUBCENTRIC WHEEL SPACERS | 5X4.75 5X120.65 5X120.7 | 70.3 CB | 5MM 3/16"- $17.89 ebay
Trying to find the 10.9 mounting bolts.
There going on 2002 camaro ss on stock 17 inch wheel the 10 spoke.. I think that’s everything.
03-24-2017, 11:54 AM
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found the 10.9 mounting bolts here at a local store.. the ones that fit were 14mmx2.0x40mm metric. the guy at the store said thats what they sell for calipers.. Ill find out when i install everything next weekend how everything goes.
03-29-2017, 09:49 PM
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i installed them today and it went pretty good. I am no mechanic and don't ever work on cars lol but the install wasn't bad for me not knowing much. I had a uncle of mine help me install them and well i still need see how the brake on high speeds. but so far they feel pretty good.
i did have to use spacers and replace the wheels studs. Ill drive the car more on highway maybe this weekend coming up and see how they are.. thanks @boosted53f for the info on all the parts..
i did have to use spacers and replace the wheels studs. Ill drive the car more on highway maybe this weekend coming up and see how they are.. thanks @boosted53f for the info on all the parts..
03-30-2017, 11:31 AM
#54
i installed them today and it went pretty good. I am no mechanic and don't ever work on cars lol but the install wasn't bad for me not knowing much. I had a uncle of mine help me install them and well i still need see how the brake on high speeds. but so far they feel pretty good.
i did have to use spacers and replace the wheels studs. Ill drive the car more on highway maybe this weekend coming up and see how they are.. thanks @boosted53f for the info on all the parts..
i did have to use spacers and replace the wheels studs. Ill drive the car more on highway maybe this weekend coming up and see how they are.. thanks @boosted53f for the info on all the parts..
05-02-2017, 08:05 AM
#57
Hats off to you sir, I went with 1st gen CTS-V brakes. When I was looking into these, there wasn't much info on them and I remember the price being a lot higher for the calipers compared to the 1st gen V's, which doesn't seem to be the case here.
Nice thing about this setup is with the Corvette rotor, you don't need to have the center bore opened up like I need to do with the 5th gen Camaro rotor, which is nice to save a trip to the machine shop.
I'd be curious if the older style 17" WS6 "sportlines" would clear these without a crazy big spacer. I have a soft spot in my heart for those wheels.
Nice thing about this setup is with the Corvette rotor, you don't need to have the center bore opened up like I need to do with the 5th gen Camaro rotor, which is nice to save a trip to the machine shop.
I'd be curious if the older style 17" WS6 "sportlines" would clear these without a crazy big spacer. I have a soft spot in my heart for those wheels.
05-02-2017, 08:32 PM
#58
One nice thing about this upgrade that I've seen from looking at it closely... you can do DBA T3 ClubSpec 4000 Rotors and Ferodo DS2500 pads... which would be a very nice mild track/aggressive street setup. The Rotors run about $150-160 each and the pads are about $250 and those pads are awesome.
05-12-2017, 06:55 AM
#59
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So I'm researching this.
My build list consists of everything from Rock Auto
Calipers
ACDELCO 1722586/7 {#22760030} GM Original Equipment Rotors $126/ea
Rotors
CENTRIC 12062146 Premium Disc $41/ea (only shown for 2014-2015 'vette)
Rotor specs (shown for 2014-2016 'vette):
https://centricparts.centriccatalog....7&i=1&uid=ANR&
Slider Pins
ACDELCO 18K1971X {#19264181} Professional $15/pair
Caliper bolts
ACDELCO 18K17004 14mmx2.0x40mm metric $3.86/pair
My build list consists of everything from Rock Auto
Calipers
ACDELCO 1722586/7 {#22760030} GM Original Equipment Rotors $126/ea
Rotors
CENTRIC 12062146 Premium Disc $41/ea (only shown for 2014-2015 'vette)
Rotor specs (shown for 2014-2016 'vette):
https://centricparts.centriccatalog....7&i=1&uid=ANR&
Slider Pins
ACDELCO 18K1971X {#19264181} Professional $15/pair
Caliper bolts
ACDELCO 18K17004 14mmx2.0x40mm metric $3.86/pair
Last edited by dojob; 08-02-2017 at 12:57 PM.
06-10-2017, 09:47 AM
#60
The C7 Z51 caliper fits stock SS wheels. Didn't measure the closest point between the caliper and the wheel barrel but it is a tight fit maybe 2mm on the top and bottom of the caliper, the side has more clearance more than 5mm.
Mockup in the photos is with LS1 rotors since I'm still waiting for the stoptech rotors which seem to be on back order.
Mockup in the photos is with LS1 rotors since I'm still waiting for the stoptech rotors which seem to be on back order.
