New wheel hop problem
#1
New wheel hop problem
I just put a new cam in my car. The car is an 04 GTO and makes about 470 RWHP. This number is before the new cam install. The new cam was installed after the old cam failed (see stuck # 7 lifter in the Gen III internal engine section). Since, the new cam is the same specs as the old one the HP numbers should be the same.
Here's the problem. I am getting wheel hop at high RPMs. This didn't happen before. When I say higher RPMs, I mean when I wind out 1st. The hop starts between 6000 - 6500 RPMs and gets worse if you stay on it. This also never happened before. I have no wheel hop coming out of the hole, and because of the wheel hop, I haven't power shifted the car into 2nd. So, I do not known if it will continue in that gear or stop.
This one has me scratching my head. Wheel hop out of the hole I get. But, I never had a car that digs well and starts to hop at the shift point to 2nd. Suggestions please.
Here's the problem. I am getting wheel hop at high RPMs. This didn't happen before. When I say higher RPMs, I mean when I wind out 1st. The hop starts between 6000 - 6500 RPMs and gets worse if you stay on it. This also never happened before. I have no wheel hop coming out of the hole, and because of the wheel hop, I haven't power shifted the car into 2nd. So, I do not known if it will continue in that gear or stop.
This one has me scratching my head. Wheel hop out of the hole I get. But, I never had a car that digs well and starts to hop at the shift point to 2nd. Suggestions please.
#3
I have B&G dropped springs: 1 1/4" fronts and 1 " rears; Koni yellows single adjustables, Hotchkiss sways and BFG KDW IIs. The car also has Pro sport poly bushings in the body to control arm connections and lower control arm bushings. DS is a single piece 3.5 AL with 1350 spicer joints.
#4
TECH Senior Member
So no wheel hop until you get to around 6000rpms? You sure its wheel hop and not something else? Are you getting traction in the lower RPMs or is the car spinning in the low RPMs and trying to get traction by the top of 1st which is why its hopping?
#5
I am going to try tweaking the sway bar and the right rear shock to stiffen rebound.
#7
Yes. The GTO uses a trailing arm that is fixed to the body and that the springs ride on. The upper spring mounts are part of the chassis. The trailing arm attaches to the body at two points and each point has two bushings. There are no OE adjustments, but some people have tweaked the arm over the years. My arm is OE and in the OE position. The original rubber bushings were replaced years ago with polys.
I am starting to suspect the tires since they are four seasons old, but I thought it was strange that the hop occurred after the cam change.
I am starting to suspect the tires since they are four seasons old, but I thought it was strange that the hop occurred after the cam change.
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#8
TECH Apprentice
Sorry, wrong car. My LCA question would not apply to the GTO. The worst part is I have a GTO and should have caught that . Old tires could be the culprit. If they aren't you might consider anti-wheel hop axles. I have stock suspension and a single anti-hop axle fixed my wheelhop.
#9
Sorry, wrong car. My LCA question would not apply to the GTO. The worst part is I have a GTO and should have caught that . Old tires could be the culprit. If they aren't you might consider anti-wheel hop axles. I have stock suspension and a single anti-hop axle fixed my wheelhop.
#10
TECH Apprentice
I have a Gforce Level I anti-hop axle on the passenger side and stock on the driver side. I also have drag bags in stock springs. At the drag strip I run 20 - 25 psi in the bags but it's not enough to stop severe squat in the stock suspension. There's no wheel hop though. With your springs and shocks, I'd guess you won't need so much psi in the bags.
I had wheel hop on 100% stock suspension and drag tires. I added the drag bags and they helped some. I added the axle when the wheel hop persisted and it stopped the wheel hop.
I had wheel hop on 100% stock suspension and drag tires. I added the drag bags and they helped some. I added the axle when the wheel hop persisted and it stopped the wheel hop.
#11
I have a Gforce Level I anti-hop axle on the passenger side and stock on the driver side. I also have drag bags in stock springs. At the drag strip I run 20 - 25 psi in the bags but it's not enough to stop severe squat in the stock suspension. There's no wheel hop though. With your springs and shocks, I'd guess you won't need so much psi in the bags.
I had wheel hop on 100% stock suspension and drag tires. I added the drag bags and they helped some. I added the axle when the wheel hop persisted and it stopped the wheel hop.
I had wheel hop on 100% stock suspension and drag tires. I added the drag bags and they helped some. I added the axle when the wheel hop persisted and it stopped the wheel hop.