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Old 03-13-2005, 08:11 AM
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Default I don't know how some of you do it ...

I took the shocks and rear sway bar (21mm) off of my 98 to use on my CMC car. I replaced them with low mileage stock Decarbons (all I had at the time) and a 19mm sway bar.

It feels like the rear is resting on a waterbed with Dirk Diggler at work.

I don't know how some of you can drive a car with shocks this bad ... maybe you've just never driven a decent handling car.

If you have stock shocks, you have no idea what you are missing ...
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Amen to that.
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I second that.
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When my rear Koni DA's were damaged, I stuck decarbons on the rear. You are 100% right, they suck. I forgot how bad they actually were. I'll try not to repeat that again anytime soon.
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That's right, if you haven't put on konis, you have no idea what you're missing.

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When my rear Koni DA's were damaged, I stuck decarbons on the rear. You are 100% right, they suck. I forgot how bad they actually were. I'll try not to repeat that again anytime soon.
How many miles? Fwiw I heard new decarbons are fine.

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Fwiw I heard new decarbons are fine.
Fwiw, you heard wrong.
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Mosty because it still goes fast with the stock shocks, and slides in a controlled, predictable manner.

But I agree - the new shocks were the 2nd best mod I did to the car. It drives a lot more BMW like now, an amazing difference from the tired DeCarbons. What was the best mod? the stereo :-)
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Originally Posted by 98T56TA
That's right, if you haven't put on konis, you have no idea what you're missing.


How many miles? Fwiw I heard new decarbons are fine.

Decarbons are not valved very well for our cars from the factory. They just didn't get it "right".

I bottomed out my Koni's and smashed the compression valve in the shock body. Not a Koni defect. I killed them.
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
It feels like the rear is resting on a waterbed with Dirk Diggler at work.
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Damn you guys, I'm debating on whether Koni's are worth the money right now (price increase 4/1) and then you go and post about how awesome they are and how stock shocks suck, etc.....Now I HAVE to buy them
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Originally Posted by matts22
Damn you guys, I'm debating on whether Koni's are worth the money right now (price increase 4/1) and then you go and post about how awesome they are and how stock shocks suck, etc.....Now I HAVE to buy them
Naw man, you don't have to buy them, if you stick with the deCarbon's you'll never know what you're missing, so it won't make a big difference!
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Originally Posted by Carlos01SS
Naw man, you don't have to buy them, if you stick with the deCarbon's you'll never know what you're missing, so it won't make a big difference!
Good point, but I'm trying to blame others so I don't feel bad for spending money
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Originally Posted by matts22
Good point, but I'm trying to blame others so I don't feel bad for spending money

Well I was going to second what he said, but I see you're looking to be led astray. So FWIW, the stock shocks SUCK. NEVER EVER get stocks when you could get the good stuff instead. That would be just CRAZY!!


GL on your suspension decisisons.
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Why not the Bilstein HD's? Just curious!
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Originally Posted by Firehawk526
Why not the Bilstein HD's? Just curious!
I thought about them, but I think Koni's are just a better shock, and I like being able to adjust them to how "I" like them. As an added bonus, I might drag race a little, and adjustability might help a little (nothing like a drag shock I know, but maybe a little).
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Originally Posted by matts22
Damn you guys, I'm debating on whether Koni's are worth the money right now (price increase 4/1) and then you go and post about how awesome they are and how stock shocks suck, etc.....Now I HAVE to buy them
Tell Sam Mitch sent you ...
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Cool, just wondered. I know my eibach/bilstein combo plants extremely well, but it isn't a system that is very flexible w/alterations IMO.

If you go w/the Koni set-up, please provide us some feedback. I have never heard anything bad about Koni's, but they are pricey.
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
Tell Sam Mitch sent you ...
Do I get a special discount or something?
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Originally Posted by matts22
Do I get a special discount or something?
Sam's 30 sec/ or 30 ft guarantee!!!
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Originally Posted by Firehawk526
Sam's 30 sec/ or 30 ft guarantee!!!
I thought he gave tail light warranty.....



once he doesnt see your tail lights,,, you lost your warranty



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