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Old 05-15-2005, 11:10 AM
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After the 17X11 TT2 swap and the 315's, I ran into some major fender rub issues read as: Eibach Sag Hell. I rolled the fenders.... still rubbing. Tore up one of my brand new 315's bad too. Finally tracked down some used '01 WS6 springs, and man what a difference! Check out the before and after...
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Sorry man, it looked better before. Thats odd that it was so bad, you got the right off set right?
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First pic looks really good man
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lol ya, to bad your a 4X4 now. haha
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I like the lowered pic better. I see you have SLP bilstein shocks, but if you had changed the rear shocks to Koni's or a revalved bilstein with the pro-kit, would that raise the back a little?
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Originally Posted by Bad Blu Formula
Sorry man, it looked better before. Thats odd that it was so bad, you got the right off set right?
Yep... 46.
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I like the lowered pic better. I see you have SLP bilstein shocks, but if you had changed the rear shocks to Koni's or a revalved bilstein with the pro-kit, would that raise the back a little?
Naw.... there is no way a regular shock would lift it up... I'd have to do an airbag or somesheit. No Thanks!!!

I think it looks better now than it did lowered. Plus I can actually get up and down the curb on my driveway!
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Are you sure you rolled the fenders enough? I rolled mine and I don't have a single problem with my TT2s and BFGs. My car looks just like yours infact. I know I'm running BMR springs but I've put people in the back and have had the fender sitting well over the tires. I haven't had a problem with rubbing. What are you doing with your Eibachs??
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It looks better lowered fwiw. But is one tire rubbing or both? Do you have an adjustable, quality rod-ended panhard bar in there? Just the outside of the tires?
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It looks better slammed sometimes you have to sacrifice.
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Are you sure you rolled the fenders enough? I rolled mine and I don't have a single problem with my TT2s and BFGs. My car looks just like yours infact. I know I'm running BMR springs but I've put people in the back and have had the fender sitting well over the tires. I haven't had a problem with rubbing. What are you doing with your Eibachs??
Couldn't roll them any more... they are all the way up. If you look at the picture you can see that there is about an inch of clearance from the tire to the fender lip (after the roll).

The Eibach's are for sale. PM me if you are interested.
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Originally Posted by absolut_speed
It looks better lowered fwiw. But is one tire rubbing or both? Do you have an adjustable, quality rod-ended panhard bar in there? Just the outside of the tires?
Both were rubbing on the tread, about an inch in from the edge of the tread. The passenger side rubbed more cause I had my fatass friend in there.

I've got an adj. BMR panhard bar.
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Personally I think you want something in between the
two; might next try taking out the two donuts and
put the heater hose on the springs. That's a freebie
more or less and might come out looking the best.

I'd try and center the car up by having said fat-***
load down your car, measure the clearance. That
will move L-R with the suspension travel and you want
to work against the minimums, both sides, both loaded
and unloaded. Like you might see 1/2" on the left unloaded
and 3/4" loaded while on the right it's 1/2" unloaded and
1/4" loaded; then decrease it to 3/8" left side unloaded
and you'll have 3/8" loaded on the right, that's balanced
(not in either position, but limit-balanced).

I've got air shocks on mine and that might suit you too,
like take out the donuts and if it's still too low, or if
Bubba Chubs has to come along, you can air up and
deal with it.
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Looked way better in the first pic. Why don't you try a spring that doesn't lower it as much? Hotchkis and DMS come to mind...
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Originally Posted by 6shifter
Couldn't roll them any more... they are all the way up. If you look at the picture you can see that there is about an inch of clearance from the tire to the fender lip (after the roll).

The Eibach's are for sale. PM me if you are interested.

Where does it scrape at on the fender? I'm just curious. I'm sending you a PM too.
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Originally Posted by 01 Red WS6
Where does it scrape at on the fender? I'm just curious. I'm sending you a PM too.

Right along the inside edge of the fender lip from 10 o'clock to 2 o'clock if you are facing the wheel.
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TT IIS are 46mm offset and you REALLY need a 58mm offset. I got rid of mine and went back to ZR-1 wheels for that reason! I'm lowered w/315s and don't rub at all anymore. The TTIIs would rub and cut the crap out of my tires.
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A couple of things. 315's are wide, and not a natural fit under the car. And not all the tires are the same. Some 315's are wider and rub more than others do. Also, I see you have a Panhard bar, but don't see that it's adjustable... is it? Because when you lower the car, the body mount dropped but the axle mount did not. The result is the axle moves to the right. Were you rubbing you right rear tire on the fender and/or left rear tire on the inside above the control arm?

Eibach's are low, but looking at the pictures, they aren't sagging. The lower you go, the more the axle moves. If you don't recenter and you have wider wheels, you are going to rub.....
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
A couple of things. 315's are wide, and not a natural fit under the car. And not all the tires are the same. Some 315's are wider and rub more than others do. Also, I see you have a Panhard bar, but don't see that it's adjustable... is it? Because when you lower the car, the body mount dropped but the axle mount did not. The result is the axle moves to the right. Were you rubbing you right rear tire on the fender and/or left rear tire on the inside above the control arm?

Eibach's are low, but looking at the pictures, they aren't sagging. The lower you go, the more the axle moves. If you don't recenter and you have wider wheels, you are going to rub.....
Sam,

The Panhard is adj. They were both rubbing... the right side a little more than the left... but only cause that's where the large man was sitting. I'm actually very happy with the Ws6 springs ride... and the look. The eibachs lowered me 1.75 front and rear... measured by my mechanic... Eibach said this was within their tolerances.
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Originally Posted by 6shifter
The Eibach's are for sale. PM me if you are interested.
Why did you remove such good shocks? What shocks are you using now?

BTW, using a better shock on the rear will help prevent the rear suspension from excess travel. It, by itself, can make the difference between rubbing and not rubbing simply because it controls the suspension much better.




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