GreekGator

here ya go

KCFormula

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Sam, I truely respect your opinion and was wondering what is the best way to get in touch with you about "checking" or giving advice on a particular setup? PM or Phone? Thanks

Sorry for the "threadjack"

Sam Strano

iTrader: (41)

My bars are painted, and as you can see in the pictures that GreekGator was kind enought to post (thanks!), they are gray. You can take and coat them if you want. But I don't offer it. I'm not the form over function type. BTW the pics do not show hardware and bushings, but they do come with the bars......

Best way to discuss things with me is on the phone. Can't do it by e-mail, won't even pretend. Hate typing, but really e-mail or forums just lack detail that's very important.

GreekGator

Whoops! Sorry guys, i knew i forgot to show something. Yes, they do come with bushings and endlinks.

GreekGator

Whoops! Sorry guys, i knew i forgot to show something. Yes, they do come with bushings and endlinks. If you can see part of a cardboard box in one of the pics, they are in there.

SS DNA

iTrader: (7)

Sam's bars are good from what I heard. I wonder how much it will cost me to power coat them black

May Spin

Save your money... Can't see the bar unless you want to climb under the car, and if you drive in the real world it's is going to get dirty really quick.

Sam Strano

iTrader: (41)

May Spin is right. You can't see the front bar unless you get under the car. You can see the center of rear bar is you look around your muffler, or have a system that has no rear muffler..... So if that's the concern, just coat the rear bar.

trackbird

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I've run 30/19 with 600/200 in lb springs.

I've run 35/25 with 600/200 in lb springs.

I've run 35/19 with 600/200 in lb springs.

I've run 35/19 with 600/150 in lb springs.

I've run 35/22 (hollow rear) with 600/150 in lb springs.

You'll notice one constant here....the 35mm front bar. It works great on these cars. If you have a 32mm bar, it is better than the 30mm, but a 35mm bar actually works even better (for handling applications) due to better camber control due to reduced body roll.

The 25mm was too much (and I had a "ton" of rear spring"). The 35/19 combo was much better, but I still had a bunch of rear spring. So, I went to 150 in lb rear springs and added the hollow 22mm bar from Sam Strano (my front bar is a Suspension Techniques solid bar, though I bought one of Sam's 35's but didn't use it due to a stuck bolt on my car at the time).

May Spin

I agree with trackbird, when he says the 25mm rear bar is too much. Not that I've personally used one. I ran Sam's 35mm front for a few days before adding the 22 rear. During that time the rear felt lazy, after adding the rear I noticed I picked up some slow speed corner exiting spin and that's with oem 114lb rear springs. There seems to be a fine line with these cars (as far as the rear is concerned). The rear still need's some roll.

Foxxtron

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My take is that not only is the rear suspension dealing with a solid rear axle as far as the articulation is concerned, but also the great unsprung weight that the solid rear axle has in itslef.