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IA2000SS 03-06-2008 08:14 PM

Lowering Question???
 
Im lowering my camaro this spring and already have strano springs that i havent put on yet. Im going to order the Koni 4/3, LCA Relocation Brackets, and Adjustable Panhard Bar. Is that all I need for lowering??? Thanks

zach_ws6 03-06-2008 09:05 PM

damn dude, you sound set.
just get an alignment right after you are done. you prob. know that though

z28bryan 03-07-2008 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by IA2000SS (Post 8868975)
Im lowering my camaro this spring and already have strano springs that i havent put on yet. Im going to order the Koni 4/3, LCA Relocation Brackets, and Adjustable Panhard Bar. Is that all I need for lowering??? Thanks

The koni 4/3 is a good choice to dampen the Strano springs properly and give you the ability to handle any other springs if you were to change in the future (but I doubt you will ever change from Strano springs)

When you lower the car, the angle of the LCAs will go downward from the axle to the chassis. This angle is worse for launching and can be more prone to wheelhop, but doesn't mean you will wheelhop. I rarely wheelhop, only once in a while and I have the Strano springs.

The relocation brackets can put the LCAs at an upward angle from the axle to the chassis which will help force the wheels downward during a launch. The cons to this is that during a turn, the angles of the control arms will pull the axle forward on the inner turn side and cause the axle to point in the opposite direction of the turn, causing more oversteer.

There's some info on relocation brackets for ya. You can decide whether or not you need them.

The adjustable phb can be used to recenter your rear end upon lowering the car. The axle under suspension travel moves slightly side to side, not just straight up and down due to the way the phb is connected to it.

Sam Strano 03-07-2008 11:10 AM

I agree that you don't need LCA brackets when lowering. I also do not run them on my car, no need for what I do. No wheelhop either. To lower properly, all you need are the right springs, shocks that match and an adjustable PHB to re-center the axle. Basically what I put into my HP1 kit (http://www.stranoparts.com/partdetai...D=18&ModelID=7).

I'm not saying that some cars won't need other things if the continue to, or start hopping. I'm saying let's see. Here you have two guys already who don't have wheelhop issues without brackets, and both cars are driven quite hard. I don't believe in parts without a real-world reason. Not all cars require the same things.

SOMbitch 03-08-2008 10:39 AM

No LCA relocation here with no wheelhop either. We'll see if that changes in the next month when I'm puttin down 410 rwhp+ after the H/C swap:devil: I'll keep ya posted!

Break down and get a set of sways too.

Black C5 Z06 06-25-2008 10:27 PM

Alright, I'm bringing up an ancient thread, but I have a question.

Do I REALLY need an Adj. PH bar?
I'm wanting to lower my girlfriend's '98 SS for her birthday present. It's stock other than repro. black motorsports, gears, and exhaust, and she does NOT drive it hard, so would it be detrimental to just skip the panhard bar?
Thanks guys

BMR Tech2 06-26-2008 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by Black C5 Z06 (Post 9627380)
Alright, I'm bringing up an ancient thread, but I have a question.

Do I REALLY need an Adj. PH bar?
I'm wanting to lower my girlfriend's '98 SS for her birthday present. It's stock other than repro. black motorsports, gears, and exhaust, and she does NOT drive it hard, so would it be detrimental to just skip the panhard bar?
Thanks guys

Lowering the car can cause the rearend to become misaligned right/left. An adjustable phr is the only way to correct this, centering the rearend under the car. We offer a couple variations of adj phr's (pics attached), which can be adjusted while on the car. The PHR002 (first pic) would best suit your application, as your girlfriend's car is a street car. We also offer a set of lowering springs, and a pic of a T/A with them installed is attached also. Please give us a call if you have any further questions, and we can discuss your options which best suit your desires - our sales/tech lines are open 8:30 - 6:00PM EST, Mon-Fri.

Nightrydass 06-26-2008 08:55 AM

so then you don't need an adj tq arm either? You just recomend buying one of your kits and see what symptoms come up or don't come up?

BMR Tech 06-26-2008 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by Nightrydass (Post 9629037)
so then you don't need an adj tq arm either? You just recomend buying one of your kits and see what symptoms come up or don't come up?

Absolutely need one no...benefit from one possibly. The "need" really depends on your particular application and what your trying to achieve with the vehicle.

Our lowering packages are designed to help save you a few dollars and aid with some basic suspension component choices.

If you are looking for more of a recommendation for your particular application I would be more than happy to over all of the choices I have available for you :D

Nightrydass 06-26-2008 12:32 PM

^^^

Thanks you; and i will def be consulting with you before i purchase. My car is going to be a canyon carver with some (light) track time just for bsing and fun. I'm more worried about handleing. I just don't want to spend 3K on an entire suspension re-haul if i don't need too; at least not all at once. Eventually i will have EVERYTHING done (k-member, sfc, ect) but right now i just ant to know what i need other then an adj phb. Also my car is NOT for competion and probably wont be either. It is just a street cruiser and show car.

it is just hard b/c everyone somewhere says you need everything. u kno?

BMR Tech2 06-26-2008 12:38 PM

Just give Lee a call, he will go over what you expect out of your car and suggest the right parts to get the job done. Our tech/sales dept is available MON-FRI 8:30AM-6:00PM EST.

Nightrydass 06-26-2008 12:47 PM

kool thx

JD_AMG 06-26-2008 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Nightrydass (Post 9630290)
^^^

Thanks you; and i will def be consulting with you before i purchase. My car is going to be a canyon carver with some (light) track time just for bsing and fun. I'm more worried about handleing. I just don't want to spend 3K on an entire suspension re-haul if i don't need too; at least not all at once. Eventually i will have EVERYTHING done (k-member, sfc, ect) but right now i just ant to know what i need other then an adj phb. Also my car is NOT for competion and probably wont be either. It is just a street cruiser and show car.

it is just hard b/c everyone somewhere says you need everything. u kno?

Just FYI you don't need anything over what you have stock.
And you definitely don't need to spend anywhere near $3,000 on suspension for a street canyon craver. Good shocks, springs and swaybars(matched together for handling, not all just thrown on from different companies, check out strano's setup, specifically designed together for handling) will be more than enough (assuming you have good tires) for suspension. You definitely don't need SFCs, or relocation brackets if you are going for handling.


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