I knew it! Mustang Answers...
12-16-2010, 03:22 AM
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I knew it! Mustang Answers... This explains a lot...I always knew there was something about Mustangs.
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Guess I better sell the 93' then. 
12-16-2010, 07:39 AM
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This just puts to paper something that everyone and their brother already knew (including the Mustang guys). Ford sacrificed performance for sales while GM did the exact opposite. Could have been a good move or could have been a bad one, but at least Ford didn't have to put the Mustang on "hiatus" for eight years. 
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This just puts to paper something that everyone and their brother already knew (including the Mustang guys). Ford sacrificed performance for sales while GM did the exact opposite. Could have been a good move or could have been a bad one, but at least Ford didn't have to put the Mustang on "hiatus" for eight years.
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This just puts to paper something that everyone and their brother already knew (including the Mustang guys). Ford sacrificed performance for sales while GM did the exact opposite. Could have been a good move or could have been a bad one, but at least Ford didn't have to put the Mustang on "hiatus" for eight years.
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LOL makes sense 
12-19-2010, 11:57 AM
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Funny thing is, since the late 80's those girly cars have been whipping some GM ***. Until the Ls based engine came around in 98, the F Body didn't have a chance on the streets. The LS ruled the streets for a while but now with the 5.0 DOHC engine, its game on again and Ford is back in control. Ford has always managed to do more with less cubic inches. Personally I always wanted Ford to step up and offer a bigger engine than the basic 5.0 and later 4.6 but I guess with all the girls buying the cars up like hot cakes, why fix what wasn't broken?
I always thought the Corvette was for the small ***** group, the Camaro was for the mullet wearing folks and the T/A was for the metrosexuals and the Firebird was for the girls. ;D
I always thought the Corvette was for the small ***** group, the Camaro was for the mullet wearing folks and the T/A was for the metrosexuals and the Firebird was for the girls. ;D
12-19-2010, 01:46 PM
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^^^
haha...but that has changed yet again...
when that new Z/28 hits the roads with the LSA from the CTS-V(2), it will change the tables. and when GM introduces the next Gen SBs on a couple years. from what i have heard its going to be something like a 5.5L DOHC with around 440-460hp / 420-440 tq. its going to continue the Domestic arms races for YEARS and YEARS. but one thing is for sure, Ford and GM and getting things right but Mopar still has there heads up there asses. i read about the new SRT8 Challenger. it will come with a 6.4L Hemi with 370/370 hp/tq. but it GAINED 250ish pounds. the new Challenger weighs something like 4700 pounds, and is a ******* COUPE.
there is one thing that no can deny. GM makes the best Small Block you can get. Prime example...you will see Ford guy running GM SBs over the Fords, and Mopar guy will do it too (but not are much as Ford). But you will never see a guy put a Ford or Mopar engine in there GM car...
haha...but that has changed yet again...
when that new Z/28 hits the roads with the LSA from the CTS-V(2), it will change the tables. and when GM introduces the next Gen SBs on a couple years. from what i have heard its going to be something like a 5.5L DOHC with around 440-460hp / 420-440 tq. its going to continue the Domestic arms races for YEARS and YEARS. but one thing is for sure, Ford and GM and getting things right but Mopar still has there heads up there asses. i read about the new SRT8 Challenger. it will come with a 6.4L Hemi with 370/370 hp/tq. but it GAINED 250ish pounds. the new Challenger weighs something like 4700 pounds, and is a ******* COUPE.
there is one thing that no can deny. GM makes the best Small Block you can get. Prime example...you will see Ford guy running GM SBs over the Fords, and Mopar guy will do it too (but not are much as Ford). But you will never see a guy put a Ford or Mopar engine in there GM car...
12-19-2010, 01:56 PM
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Funny thing is, since the late 80's those girly cars have been whipping some GM ***. Until the Ls based engine came around in 98, the F Body didn't have a chance on the streets. The LS ruled the streets for a while but now with the 5.0 DOHC engine, its game on again and Ford is back in control. Ford has always managed to do more with less cubic inches. Personally I always wanted Ford to step up and offer a bigger engine than the basic 5.0 and later 4.6 but I guess with all the girls buying the cars up like hot cakes, why fix what wasn't broken?
I always thought the Corvette was for the small ***** group, the Camaro was for the mullet wearing folks and the T/A was for the metrosexuals and the Firebird was for the girls. ;D
I always thought the Corvette was for the small ***** group, the Camaro was for the mullet wearing folks and the T/A was for the metrosexuals and the Firebird was for the girls. ;D
12-19-2010, 02:01 PM
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Are you serious? Or just a nut swinger? The mustang barely put out over 200hp in the GT during the 90s. V6 F-Bodies were beating them. They were an embarrassment. The LT1 beat the stuffing out of the modular 4.6 and the LS1 was insulted by having to be compared to it. Ford finally took off the panties and put some big boy briefs on in the early 00's and actually started making a non FI Mustang that put down what the LS1's were making half a decade before. Don't get me wrong, I love all American muscle including the Mustang, but your post was probably the dumbest thing I have seen in a Mustang vs. Camaro thread.
12-19-2010, 02:21 PM
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Funny thing is, since the late 80's those girly cars have been whipping some GM ***. Until the Ls based engine came around in 98, the F Body didn't have a chance on the streets. The LS ruled the streets for a while but now with the 5.0 DOHC engine, its game on again and Ford is back in control. Ford has always managed to do more with less cubic inches. Personally I always wanted Ford to step up and offer a bigger engine than the basic 5.0 and later 4.6 but I guess with all the girls buying the cars up like hot cakes, why fix what wasn't broken?
I always thought the Corvette was for the small ***** group, the Camaro was for the mullet wearing folks and the T/A was for the metrosexuals and the Firebird was for the girls. ;D
I always thought the Corvette was for the small ***** group, the Camaro was for the mullet wearing folks and the T/A was for the metrosexuals and the Firebird was for the girls. ;D
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Are you serious? Or just a nut swinger? The mustang barely put out over 200hp in the GT during the 90s. V6 F-Bodies were beating them. They were an embarrassment. The LT1 beat the stuffing out of the modular 4.6 and the LS1 was insulted by having to be compared to it. Ford finally took off the panties and put some big boy briefs on in the early 00's and actually started making a non FI Mustang that put down what the LS1's were making half a decade before. Don't get me wrong, I love all American muscle including the Mustang, but your post was probably the dumbest thing I have seen in a Mustang vs. Camaro thread.
I'm just a nut swinger........ You guys are hilarous though.
12-19-2010, 02:42 PM
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there is one thing that no can deny. GM makes the best Small Block you can get. Prime example...you will see Ford guy running GM SBs over the Fords, and Mopar guy will do it too (but not are much as Ford). But you will never see a guy put a Ford or Mopar engine in there GM car...
12-19-2010, 02:53 PM
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The only reason to install a SBC into anything other than a Chevy is because you simply don't know how to make horse power. Looking at the Engine Masters competition proves that. The one thing GM has done over the years up until the change over to the Lt1 was keep things pretty well interchangible. IMO, the LT1 was the 2nd worst V8 to ever come in a Gm made vehicle only behind the 305. On the contrary, they got it right when they released the Ls based engine. Ford made the decision back in the 90's to get away from the conventional pushrod design and the 4V configuration has always been stout for its size. Ford should have stepped up and did the 5.0 or even larger 10 years ago. The 2v 4.6 sucked in N/A form. The 3V was much better but still not as good as the 4v was. I only wish the engine was packaged smaller but it is what it is.
i do, however, disagree that the only reason people put SBC is other applications is that they dont know how to make horsepower. i think the reason is that it is A LOT easier to make the power on a SBC. after all, there is no replacement for displacement. 2002 F-Body running complete N/A (using a built motor still 5.7L) will make the the same power as the 2002 4.6L Modular with a F/I System.