High Hp Pat G tuned ....?
09-05-2012, 08:39 AM
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I take my stuff to Pat G for Reliability and Drive-ability something hes damn good in. Take your car to another shop to get a shortcut tune for the "biggest" number and let me know how replacing pistons goes when you have to pull them out because they ran it too lean to get your "numbers".
Lmao some people's dicks on here are wayyyyyy too big.
Btw.... Pat G tuned my car and I cruise at 35 mph in 6'th gear with a MS3.
SUP
Lmao some people's dicks on here are wayyyyyy too big.
Btw.... Pat G tuned my car and I cruise at 35 mph in 6'th gear with a MS3.
SUP
09-05-2012, 09:12 AM
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09-05-2012, 10:56 AM
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Most people who comment on how great their tuner is aren't really educated enough about tuning to know if they got what they paid for or not. If they were they would just tune the car themselves.
Ask Pat G or whoever you are considering to give your contact info to some of his happy customers. If they are supportive of him you should hear from them, and maybe they will let you check out the drivability and performance of their car.
Making more power tuning an FI car does NOT mean the tuner is better at all. Timing and fuel are the only things at play there, and you are counting on the tuner's experience to dial it in to a number that will keep it in one piece.
Most people are changing their setups so often that you never really get to see how the car holds up in the long run. If I was going to pay someone to tune my setup, and it was a common setup, I'd take it to someone who has done 100's of those setups without a high rate of failure. Even the best tuners have to learn from their mistakes, and not many of them have an R&D vehicle to do it with
Ask Pat G or whoever you are considering to give your contact info to some of his happy customers. If they are supportive of him you should hear from them, and maybe they will let you check out the drivability and performance of their car.
Making more power tuning an FI car does NOT mean the tuner is better at all. Timing and fuel are the only things at play there, and you are counting on the tuner's experience to dial it in to a number that will keep it in one piece.
Most people are changing their setups so often that you never really get to see how the car holds up in the long run. If I was going to pay someone to tune my setup, and it was a common setup, I'd take it to someone who has done 100's of those setups without a high rate of failure. Even the best tuners have to learn from their mistakes, and not many of them have an R&D vehicle to do it with
09-05-2012, 12:17 PM
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"Who wants to pay for a tune that drives bad on the street though?"
...that's my point. Apperently people get stuck with a "track" tune and a car that drives like **** a lot. I know Pat's tunes aren't that way.
...that's my point. Apperently people get stuck with a "track" tune and a car that drives like **** a lot. I know Pat's tunes aren't that way.
09-05-2012, 05:45 PM
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My car ran ( In sealy ) with a soft launch 11.7 at 125 mph on KDW's
See Hp/TQ below
Im making 460hp/410 tq with H/C/I through full exhaust.
Pat said my springs were also fatigued because I lose power after 6300 ( Car goes to 7500 ) so i could easily pick up another 10-15 hp with new springs and a cutout.
The guy knows his stuff and I don't think I have ever seen a single negative comment about his work.
See Hp/TQ below
Pat said my springs were also fatigued because I lose power after 6300 ( Car goes to 7500 ) so i could easily pick up another 10-15 hp with new springs and a cutout.
The guy knows his stuff and I don't think I have ever seen a single negative comment about his work.
09-05-2012, 07:17 PM
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A 408 rwhp bolt on car weighing 4300 pounds turning an 11.91 and put my big ole car in the 11 second club took some effort.
I'm not saying that the good folks at either G-Force, LMR, or England Green couldn't do it, but I met Pat and Kurt at the track and felt so comfortable with them, I left them my car for a week to get the work done. The price was fair, and I was very happy with the results.
09-05-2012, 11:09 PM
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LMFAO Tune the car and sell it for you What A Deal!!!!!!!!!
09-05-2012, 11:44 PM
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09-06-2012, 12:50 AM
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Pat G and Kurt are great! My old set up:
02 Z28---Daily driver Stock bottom end , Thunder racings TRAK cam: 231/234 640/595 , full bolt ons, PRC Stage 2.5 heads, 37#injectors, fast 90/90, 25% pulley , True duals w/Xpipe dumped, stock rockers, stock lifters
470rwhp, 456rwtq 1/4: in 11.24 all motor
I know those #'s are not high end, but for a stock bottom end that didn't have the BEST heads or the MOST aggresive cam, that is pretty damn good. When I idled my needle was like at around 800rpm and it look like it was painted on there,, it wouldn't move at all, a testament to how great the tune was.
I have seen a car that patrick tuned with the infamous T-REX cam, the car t had stock heads, stock bottom end. When everyone else said that this cam was for bigger displacement engines and without heads and a big intake, it would not work and be a waste....this car drove grreat with lots of power.
Plus just go visit with Pat and Kurt. I was there like 3 weeks ago. That place looks like a damn car show/museum. They had an old Chevelle, C6 Z06's, G8's , CTS-V's, 5th Gens, C5's...etc a ton of high end cars. People just drop them off and say I want 700, 800+ HP and they get it done.
Do you think someone is just gonna turn in their $50k, $70+k cars to them if they didn't trust them to get the best out of their cars? I firmly believe Patrick is the best tuner anywhere, period. I have seen it first hand. Pat is precise. When I took my car to my long time ASE cert GM mechanic after he had "tuned" it, he was in shock at how much more pat got out of it.
So Patrick is the BEST period, everyone else whose not on board ...better stop drinking that HatorAde and get with the program
Oh and the new set up on the way:
421ci LQ9, LS3 ported 250cc heads with dual spring kit up to 675 lift, 60#injectors, 248/254 Texas Giant Cam from TSP , LS7 high rev lifters, 150 shot, Monster Level 5 Clutch, ....etc etc And guess where Im taking it all to get tuned...
02 Z28---Daily driver Stock bottom end , Thunder racings TRAK cam: 231/234 640/595 , full bolt ons, PRC Stage 2.5 heads, 37#injectors, fast 90/90, 25% pulley , True duals w/Xpipe dumped, stock rockers, stock lifters
470rwhp, 456rwtq 1/4: in 11.24 all motor
I know those #'s are not high end, but for a stock bottom end that didn't have the BEST heads or the MOST aggresive cam, that is pretty damn good. When I idled my needle was like at around 800rpm and it look like it was painted on there,, it wouldn't move at all, a testament to how great the tune was.
I have seen a car that patrick tuned with the infamous T-REX cam, the car t had stock heads, stock bottom end. When everyone else said that this cam was for bigger displacement engines and without heads and a big intake, it would not work and be a waste....this car drove grreat with lots of power.
Plus just go visit with Pat and Kurt. I was there like 3 weeks ago. That place looks like a damn car show/museum. They had an old Chevelle, C6 Z06's, G8's , CTS-V's, 5th Gens, C5's...etc a ton of high end cars. People just drop them off and say I want 700, 800+ HP and they get it done.
Do you think someone is just gonna turn in their $50k, $70+k cars to them if they didn't trust them to get the best out of their cars? I firmly believe Patrick is the best tuner anywhere, period. I have seen it first hand. Pat is precise. When I took my car to my long time ASE cert GM mechanic after he had "tuned" it, he was in shock at how much more pat got out of it.
So Patrick is the BEST period, everyone else whose not on board ...better stop drinking that HatorAde and get with the program
Oh and the new set up on the way:
421ci LQ9, LS3 ported 250cc heads with dual spring kit up to 675 lift, 60#injectors, 248/254 Texas Giant Cam from TSP , LS7 high rev lifters, 150 shot, Monster Level 5 Clutch, ....etc etc And guess where Im taking it all to get tuned...
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09-06-2012, 01:45 AM
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Pat G and Kurt are great! My old set up:
02 Z28---Daily driver Stock bottom end , Thunder racings TRAK cam: 231/234 640/595 , full bolt ons, PRC Stage 2.5 heads, 37#injectors, fast 90/90, 25% pulley , True duals w/Xpipe dumped, stock rockers, stock lifters
470rwhp, 456rwtq 1/4: in 11.24 all motor
I know those #'s are not high end, but for a stock bottom end that didn't have the BEST heads or the MOST aggresive cam, that is pretty damn good. When I idled my needle was like at around 800rpm and it look like it was painted on there,, it wouldn't move at all, a testament to how great the tune was.
I have seen a car that patrick tuned with the infamous T-REX cam, the car t had stock heads, stock bottom end. When everyone else said that this cam was for bigger displacement engines and without heads and a big intake, it would not work and be a waste....this car drove grreat with lots of power.
Plus just go visit with Pat and Kurt. I was there like 3 weeks ago. That place looks like a damn car show/museum. They had an old Chevelle, C6 Z06's, G8's , CTS-V's, 5th Gens, C5's...etc a ton of high end cars. People just drop them off and say I want 700, 800+ HP and they get it done.
Do you think someone is just gonna turn in their $50k, $70+k cars to them if they didn't trust them to get the best out of their cars? I firmly believe Patrick is the best tuner anywhere, period. I have seen it first hand. Pat is precise. When I took my car to my long time ASE cert GM mechanic after he had "tuned" it, he was in shock at how much more pat got out of it.
So Patrick is the BEST period, everyone else whose not on board ...better stop drinking that HatorAde and get with the program
Oh and the new set up on the way:
421ci LQ9, LS3 ported 250cc heads with dual spring kit up to 675 lift, 60#injectors, 248/254 Texas Giant Cam from TSP , LS7 high rev lifters, 150 shot, Monster Level 5 Clutch, ....etc etc And guess where Im taking it all to get tuned...
02 Z28---Daily driver Stock bottom end , Thunder racings TRAK cam: 231/234 640/595 , full bolt ons, PRC Stage 2.5 heads, 37#injectors, fast 90/90, 25% pulley , True duals w/Xpipe dumped, stock rockers, stock lifters
470rwhp, 456rwtq 1/4: in 11.24 all motor
I know those #'s are not high end, but for a stock bottom end that didn't have the BEST heads or the MOST aggresive cam, that is pretty damn good. When I idled my needle was like at around 800rpm and it look like it was painted on there,, it wouldn't move at all, a testament to how great the tune was.
I have seen a car that patrick tuned with the infamous T-REX cam, the car t had stock heads, stock bottom end. When everyone else said that this cam was for bigger displacement engines and without heads and a big intake, it would not work and be a waste....this car drove grreat with lots of power.
Plus just go visit with Pat and Kurt. I was there like 3 weeks ago. That place looks like a damn car show/museum. They had an old Chevelle, C6 Z06's, G8's , CTS-V's, 5th Gens, C5's...etc a ton of high end cars. People just drop them off and say I want 700, 800+ HP and they get it done.
Do you think someone is just gonna turn in their $50k, $70+k cars to them if they didn't trust them to get the best out of their cars? I firmly believe Patrick is the best tuner anywhere, period. I have seen it first hand. Pat is precise. When I took my car to my long time ASE cert GM mechanic after he had "tuned" it, he was in shock at how much more pat got out of it.
So Patrick is the BEST period, everyone else whose not on board ...better stop drinking that HatorAde and get with the program
Oh and the new set up on the way:
421ci LQ9, LS3 ported 250cc heads with dual spring kit up to 675 lift, 60#injectors, 248/254 Texas Giant Cam from TSP , LS7 high rev lifters, 150 shot, Monster Level 5 Clutch, ....etc etc And guess where Im taking it all to get tuned...
09-06-2012, 08:00 AM
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09-06-2012, 11:53 AM
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A monkey can tune a car WOT on the dyno. That's the easiest part of tuning a car.
Driveability and getting the power to the ground are the hardest. That actually takes some thought and work.
Driveability and getting the power to the ground are the hardest. That actually takes some thought and work.
09-06-2012, 01:01 PM
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THIS!
I wouldn't say a monkey could tune WOT. I guess for that moment on the dyno to get a peak number, but a smart tuner is going to get you a nicer curve and longevity out of the setup.