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Old 09-13-2006, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
why not 0-1/4 mile? Oh that is right, driver skill also comes into play.
^^^ Ding ^^^

80-180mph?

What's the point. Why not go to a dyno and see who can "out dyno" each other. Then, you can have a drifting competition. Winner receives Fast and Furious Trilogy and pays for Whataburger. Who's in?!
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wow, 80?
Old 09-13-2006, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sprayed1998
Guys lets not act like with a 3200 900rwhp it is gonna be some easy thing to hook. Alot of guys don't like the feel/noise of aftermarket suspension peices and I speak for alot who don't want to cage the cars. My fav race is a 1st gear roll, I don't wanna break my rear trying to race from digs. But I do agree 80mph is semi gay, 1st or 2nd gear is the way to go...
Of course they won't hook. That is why it takes driver skill to get them moving without blowing off the tires.
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I will speak for Tony we raced him in the old 434ci from a did by bay area blvd. He was on street tires we were on ETs he acan drive. That was a real race.


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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
Of course they won't hook. That is why it takes driver skill to get them moving without blowing off the tires.
I mean you could ***** foot it but what fun would that be. Seems to me these days people are more interested in what car actually pulls harder rather then what car is a striped down car with a cage and a bouncy *** drag suspension on welds. I don't want that, I want a car that rides nice, can turn, and hauls ***. It's hard too have them all. I just think you gotta sacrifice more to get a car that hooks, and some people don't want to do it. It's just kinda lame to knock those guys, if you can show me a Z06 with near 1000RWHP that is able to run from a dig on 18" HRE's let me know. I guess it comes down to two things, do you wanna see what car is actually faster, or do you wanna see whos car can launch better and drive harder. But for either of the two to knock the other is kinda silly.
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you are missing a key point here. Pick your races wisely. If your car is a 1000 hp independent rearend car on radials, race against similar cars. I'm not suggesting these guys race against 10-pt caged drag cars. Of course those drag cars will win from a dig. I'm suggesting that both of these IRS rearend radial 1000 hp cars run from a dig. The better driver could overcome a lower dynojet sheet.

It would be FAR more interesting to see a race between these two cars from 0 to 150, than it would be from 80-180. Otherwise, just rent both dynos at HPE and line them up side by side and see who hits 1000 rwhp first.

Yeah, that last comment sounds ridiculous, but so does racing starting at 80 mph.
Old 09-13-2006, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
you are missing a key point here. Pick your races wisely. If your car is a 1000 hp independent rearend car on radials, race against similar cars. I'm not suggesting these guys race against 10-pt caged drag cars. Of course those drag cars will win from a dig. I'm suggesting that both of these IRS rearend radial 1000 hp cars run from a dig. The better driver could overcome a lower dynojet sheet.

It would be FAR more interesting to see a race between these two cars from 0 to 150, than it would be from 80-180. Otherwise, just rent both dynos at HPE and line them up side by side and see who hits 1000 rwhp first.

Yeah, that last comment sounds ridiculous, but so does racing starting at 80 mph.
But what is a 1000rwhp 3200 pound car gonna do from 0mph, nothing but lose control and shred tires, basically whoever spins worse is gonan lose, and thats not very fun to do or watch. There is alot more to running from rolls, weight, powerband, shifting, aerodynamics. A 1st gear roll takes a good shifter for sure. What tires would both cars be on?
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So, I suppose by your reasoning, these cars should never be driven under 80 mph at any time? It's going to be kind of hard to find a towing trailer with a quick release, or a push vehicle that can get them up to 80 mph before they are allowed to 'drive' them.

Cars are meant to go from a stop. They have to stop several times each time they are driven. You won't spin if you can CONTROL your throttle and drive with skill. If you are an idiot and floor a 1000 hp car off the line, you deserve to lose.
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
So, I suppose by your reasoning, these cars should never be driven under 80 mph at any time? It's going to be kind of hard to find a towing trailer with a quick release, or a push vehicle that can get them up to 80 mph before they are allowed to 'drive' them.
I don't think I said that at all, in fact at several different points I said they should run from 1st gear rolls.
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But what is a 1000rwhp 3200 pound car gonna do from 0mph, nothing but lose control and shred tires, basically whoever spins worse is gonan lose, and thats not very fun to do or watch.
Sure it is fun to watch. That is called RACING. It is also fun to clown the guy that talks alot of crap and doesn't have the skill to drive his car, especially in front of his peers.

Do you honestly feel that you cannot control a 1000 hp car's throttle? Hmmm.... 10% open throttle would only be a 100 hp car, right? Those seem to take off without spinning the tires just fine. Ask any Honda guy
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
Sure it is fun to watch. That is called RACING. It is also fun to clown the guy that talks alot of crap and doesn't have the skill to drive his car, especially in front of his peers.

Do you honestly feel that you cannot control a 1000 hp car's throttle? Hmmm.... 10% open throttle would only be a 100 hp car, right? Those seem to take off without spinning the tires just fine. Ask any Honda guy
See this is just one of those things, I 100% disagree with you. I think some people get just as much satisfaction racing from a rolling start of any speed. I think these two guys just wanna see whos car has a better power to weight ratio, powerband, gearing....ect.
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Nine Ball speaks the truth. Learn to effectively use all that power, otherwise, what's the point in having it?
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Originally Posted by Sprayed1998
I think these two guys just wanna see whos car has a better power to weight ratio, powerband, gearing....ect.
power to weight ratio? Dynojet chart and a vehicle scale. Done.
powerband? Dynojet chart. Done.
Gearing? Gear chart calculators vs mph. Done.

....without having to go 180 mph.
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hell with 1k hp on the tires they can still shredd them at 80
I could shred them with 470 at 80, i dont see why they cant.
take skill not to, so why not go from a low roll at the least.

I used to do some roll racing, but it waslow rolls, I dont care to go 140+.
just me though, to each his own i guess.
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Originally Posted by BizZzatch350
Doesnt even matter both cars would be kicked out, either by ET or by just what they would trap, well over 135MPH(?) or what ever it is before you have to run a cage, hell i dont think either car even has a bar in it. I would like to see some video, gonna need a fast chase car
only valid point in here
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Last time G went from a dig bad things happened....
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
why not 0-1/4 mile? Oh that is right, driver skill also comes into play.
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Originally Posted by UTEvo8
Last time G went from a dig bad things happened....
lame

Things break. It happens. Big deal.

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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
It is kind of sad that people don't enjoy showcasing their skills behind the wheel, and focus on HP and dynojet racing.


Yep. What takes "skill" is banging through 5 gears in a big powered streetcar.
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if you cant drive your car you sure the hell dont need 1000hp. Any guy with money can build a high hp car they cant drive. Dont be a ***** and take it to the track before you kill someone! or if you really wanna see how good of a driver you are, than take it to a road course and run each other heads up a few laps!!!



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