crsmetal

Hey dont' take this as a bash b/c i respect all your family has done for this country, and not to mention im in the Army and have been to Iraq. but here is the thing the Iraqis/militia over there dont' follow the Geneva convention im so not saying what happend over there is right but when our boys are being kidnapped or our civilian contractors are being beheaded i have no sempathy for what happend in abugrabe.

As for us getting the troops home, You have to realize that we started something huge (changing the infrastructure/ government) and that just dosn't happen over night. Believe me i don't want to go back but what we are doing is a good thing and alot of Iraqis are happy we are there i know this b/c my job in the army is to talk to the people and then some..
Either way if we pull out now everything we have done will be for nothing they will fall into another civil war and we will be back where we started. We have to build of the government enough to sistain themselves and strengthn the military enough to be able to protect themselves. We will be out soon enough so just keep showing your support.

K im done..

2002C5COUPE

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He tried to resign 2 other times before, and Bush wouldn't let him

jeffstar

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I understand and respect your view. However, I can't agree with it. I feel that our country can NOT protect ours basic ideas of Freedom, Human Rights and Democracy with secret torture camps, violating the Geneva convention and violating human rights, no matter who our enemies are....everyone, regardless of what they've done, deserves a trial by jury that is open to the public and nobody, ever, deserves to be held for 5-6 years in prisons that use torture and violate basic human rights (American or not) with out charge. I'm sorry you are unable to have sympathy and empathy for other people when their human rights are violated. I'd like to see how you'd feel about tortue and human rights after you experience something to the effect. Say being crammed into a box and beaten for a few hours a day with out food or water, or being mentally tortured. You seem really tough when you're talking about not having sympathy, it's very Toby Keith of you, however after having all your finger nails ripped out because you "might" have some information that somebody wants I have a gut feeling you'd be thinking differently.

It's hard to stand up and do the right thing when nobody else is, including our enemies be them geopolitically bound or not. However, as Americans I feel it's our duty to embody the ideas we say we're protecting, during warefare and during peace time.

Also, I never said our Country shouldn't be operating in the middle East I just don't like how or what we're doing there.

Finally....I'm done with this post. I could go on for hours. There is a reason our country is extremely politically polarized right now and living in Texas I am part of the minority of people who support Human Rights for our enemy combatants captured and imprisoned. Back to talking cars, much more fun for me.

2002C5COUPE

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I've heard similar statements from many people who have actually been in Iraq. I don't understand why the people who have NO CLUE won't STFU, and let the military do their job.

Breathtaker

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G.W.Bush is the dumbest and worst president the country has ever had, and we all know he's gonna have a real hard time for the next two years and be out in 2008.

hawgs

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You mean he won't run for a 3rd term???!!!

crsmetal

that statement wasn't gears towards you, but the person who posted after you.

Im sorry but here is where my ignorance is ganna show but what torture camps are you talking about?

crsmetal

Breathtaker

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It doesn't matter if he will or not, he won't be re-elected, that's for sure, ppl got tired of him and his incompetence, he recently realized that, didn't he?

crsmetal

So what has he done to **** you off so much?

SuperSam

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I'm sorry, what's dumb about my post, the Rumsfeld stepping down or bring our troops home??? You don't know what it is to lose someone to this war. If it takes Rumsfeld stepping down, or the republicans lossing the election to bring them home, so be it. Just my .02 cent.

crsmetal

Im sorry for you loss, iv lost 3 friends over there, thankfully none in my unit, but what would be the point of just leaving? Everybody who has fought and died over there would all be in vein! It would accomplish nothing bringing everyone home.

monicaz28

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I stay out of politics and such, but I giggled a little when I read this. Are you unaware that Bush can NOT run again?

02sierraz71_5.3

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Your a complete Douche bag and your above statement really reflects just how limited you are and thoroughly brainwashed by the outspoken PC liberals in this country. There are men women and children who have been trained right now to bomb you and everyone you know. They wont hesitate to kill your 2 yr old baby and her mother.
Why dont you go watch the best friends youve ever had get bombed on a daily basis or come back with mangled bodies, you dont think thats torture, our active service go through that everyday over there! I feel no remorse or sympathy for terrorists this includes women who hold the same ideals they have killed over 3000 of our civilians and still are plotting against us.

BigBronco

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This post shows both your stupidity AND ignorance.

mattsls1

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Bringing the troops home right now would be stupid. Everything we have worked for would be lost. I have friends over there currently. And they are proud about that!

TexZ

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And I'm sure you have sooo many valid reasons to back that up, reasons that the liberal bulls%^t media didn't force feed into your head.

Oh yeah, just a little political lesson, Presidents are limited to two terms only, sorry to dissapoint!

hawgs

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He bit! I got him!

No more political posts for you since its obvious you don't even know the first thing about the Presidency. The tables have turned... and it turns out you're the idiot, not W.

NHRAMAN

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I am thinking politics is out of your scope of knowledge sir.

monicaz28

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