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Old 03-30-2009, 08:20 AM
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Anyone seen that Obama has fired Wagoner from GM?? I hope the Camaro sells well or I think they are fucked. Read the whole story at cnn.com.
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Besides I think Wagoner is one of guys that pushed to bring back the Camaro. Hopefully that Fritz guy isnt a tree hugging douche who will turn the camaro into a 40 MPG hybrid 4 banger.
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Besides I think Wagoner is one of guys that pushed to bring back the Camaro. Hopefully that Fritz guy isnt a tree hugging douche who will turn the camaro into a 40 MPG hybrid 4 banger.
Fritz has title only Obama and his car czar now control GM. I would hope Camaro still stays but my gut feeling is that GM will shut down all V8 cars and have a line up simler to Toyota with all there souless vehicles.
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Originally Posted by rzuff
Fritz has title only Obama and his car czar now control GM. I would hope Camaro still stays but my gut feeling is that GM will shut down all V8 cars and have a line up simler to Toyota with all there souless vehicles.
Then there will be no brand new cars for my aging DD to prey on.
I foresee the future as the battle between the nostalgic cars. I better keep my car running well.
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don't be so surprised. this isn't the first time us companies were nationalized...





fidel castro did it back in in the summer of 1960.
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who cars, who the hell is actually gonna by the new camaro? who is gonna get financed? no one, they are just gonna sit on the lot with all the rest.
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not everyone needs financing ot buy a car.
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Originally Posted by camarojunky74
who cars, who the hell is actually gonna by the new camaro? who is gonna get financed? no one, they are just gonna sit on the lot with all the rest.
I'd rather get a C5 or C6 then get the new Camaro, but you'd be surprised at how many people are going gaga over the 5th Gen.
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True^^^.
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Originally Posted by camarojunky74
who cars, who the hell is actually gonna by the new camaro? who is gonna get financed? no one, they are just gonna sit on the lot with all the rest.
People will be able to get financed. 94% of Americans Have all their bills paid for and are not in trouble at all. All this bailout money BS is for the 6% in this country. And their going acting like if they dont get the money the country will fall, BS. As far as the left wingers in office now controling GM, GM will fall, its proven in history by other companies that were taken over by the gov. Cause in the end the gov. just wants, they have no idea how to run a business.
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hopefully something good comes out of this....I'm still a GM believer
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Originally Posted by SS MPSTR
not everyone needs financing ot buy a car.
And those who pay cash for new cars have more money than brains.
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyBry
And those who pay cash for new cars have more money than brains.
Agreed... Just look at some of the douche biscuits driving lambo's or ferrari's... I wouldn't trust them with a metro.
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Originally Posted by camarosam22
People will be able to get financed. 94% of Americans Have all their bills paid for and are not in trouble at all. All this bailout money BS is for the 6% in this country. And their going acting like if they dont get the money the country will fall, BS. As far as the left wingers in office now controling GM, GM will fall, its proven in history by other companies that were taken over by the gov. Cause in the end the gov. just wants, they have no idea how to run a business.
Where did read that?
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at least some good news, the govt. will back gm warranties, so warranties on all gm cars are still valid even if gm does go bankrupt
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Originally Posted by camarosam22
People will be able to get financed. 94% of Americans Have all their bills paid for and are not in trouble at all. All this bailout money BS is for the 6% in this country. And their going acting like if they dont get the money the country will fall, BS. As far as the left wingers in office now controling GM, GM will fall, its proven in history by other companies that were taken over by the gov. Cause in the end the gov. just wants, they have no idea how to run a business.

What about the 15% of people in California, 10% nationwide that are unemployed?

However, I won't make this political.

I thought about getting a new Camaro, but, if GM ever switches to 4 bangers for the Camaro's, I'll keep my 5.7, put on some long tubes, and flip off the tree huggers.
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Originally Posted by DobsZ28
What about the 15% of people in California, 10% nationwide that are unemployed?

However, I won't make this political.

I thought about getting a new Camaro, but, if GM ever switches to 4 bangers for the Camaro's, I'll keep my 5.7, put on some long tubes, and flip off the tree huggers.
I would probably dothe same... or go buy a early 80's corolla that is barely running, and drive in front of their houes spitting black smoke all over... that would be fun...
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Originally Posted by camarojunky74
who cars, who the hell is actually gonna by the new camaro? who is gonna get financed? no one, they are just gonna sit on the lot with all the rest.
People with good credit.
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Originally Posted by primer84z
People with good credit.
i know of a few people who have been denied and auto loan with 700 plus credit scores with perfect debt/income ratio, credit doesnt mean **** anymore, its all about down payments.
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Originally Posted by camarojunky74
i know of a few people who have been denied and auto loan with 700 plus credit scores with perfect debt/income ratio, credit doesnt mean **** anymore, its all about down payments.
I doubt that, every car commercial on TV has 0 down this and 0 down that.



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