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Old 05-18-2009, 10:52 PM
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Welp, we'll see what happens from here:

link: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MLGU.DTL&tsp=1

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President Obama today will announce a national standard for tailpipe emissions patterned after California's pending rule requiring automakers to build more fuel-sipping vehicles and make drastic cuts in greenhouse gases, a senior administration official said Monday.
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The federal standard would be less stringent than California's regulation, which awaits a waiver from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, but it could have a larger impact in fighting global warming by involving all 50 states, the official said.

Obama's plan is a compromise that includes the support of automakers who have fought California's request for a waiver, arguing for a nationwide fuel-efficiency standard rather than what they've billed as a patchwork of state rules.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is scheduled to be with Obama today when he makes the announcement, applauded the president.

"California's relentless push for greenhouse gas reductions from automobiles is paying off not just for our state," he said, "but for all Americans, for our environment, for automakers and our economy."

The federal standard, expected to face a months-long federal rule-making process, would require automakers to increase fuel efficiency beginning with the 2012 model year. Automakers' fleets would have to average 39 mpg and light trucks and SUVs would be required to reach 30 mpg by 2016 - four years faster than federal law now requires.

Current federal standards require 27.5 mpg for cars and 22.3 mpg for SUVs and light trucks.

The regulation would reduce nationwide oil consumption by 1.8 billion barrels while cutting carbon dioxide emissions by the equivalent of taking 177 million cars off the road or closing about 190 coal-fired power plants, the White House official said on condition of anonymity.

"What this means is that there's going to be more choices on cleaner vehicles (for consumers)," the official said.

Automakers are expected to support the president's plan.

"For seven long years, there has been a debate over whether states or the federal government should regulate autos," said Dave McCurdy, president and CEO of the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers. "President Obama's announcement ends that old debate by starting federal rule-making to set a national program."

For California, with its landmark legislation signed by Schwarzenegger in 2006, the move is a huge step toward reaching its goal of reducing greenhouse gas emissions by 30 percent by 2020.

California Sen. Barbara Boxer, who chairs the Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works, said Monday she was pleased by the president's efforts.

"This is good news for all of us who have fought long and hard to reduce global warming pollution, create clean energy jobs and reduce our dangerous dependence on foreign oil," she said.

The federal government's 2016 goal for the new standard is nearly identical to California's regulation on auto emissions, which since 2005 has awaited a waiver from the EPA. Under then-President George W. Bush, the agency refused to grant California and 13 other states the exemption, relying largely on the same argument as automakers that fuel efficiency should be regulated nationwide.

The states filed a lawsuit against the federal government, but litigation became moot when Obama followed through with his campaign promise to ask the EPA to reexamine the states' waiver requests.

California officials expect the EPA to grant the waiver soon, with the state's regulation taking effect 45 days after that. Once the federal standard is in place, California would switch to the nationwide standard, which would give automakers more time to ramp up to the 2016 goal than California's regulation.

Sen. Fran Pavley, D-Agoura Hills (Los Angeles County), who authored AB 32, the state's bill regulating tailpipe emissions, called the deal between federal government, states and automakers a win-win scenario for California and the rest of the nation.

"This cleans up our air, reduces our dependence on foreign oil and continues to allow California to lead the way, while encouraging a federal standard for emissions," she said Monday before flying to Washington for today's announcement.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8bbrXnYJOo

i doubt california will take heed of this but i think arizona might. it would make things real interesting when passing such issues that hinder states rights.

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^bad link.

It doesn't sound possible given the current condition of the automakers.

The only innovation they are focusing on now is how to avoid bankruptcy.
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link fixed, i find it interesting to see how far states will go with this
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God dont get me started on this bullshit, every morning you wake up to something new. Im so ******* sick of this global warming ****.
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You know it would be more considerate to control the hell out of the coal factories. Why don't they put some big ******* cats on there stacks.
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Originally Posted by c5z28
You know it would be more considerate to control the hell out of the coal factories. Why don't they put some big ******* cats on there stacks.
They do have "cats" they are called scrubbers. The CO2 is taken out and recycled. Some of it is sold to resturants for their soft drinks. Thats one reason why the green crowd has not gone after them for CO2 emissions relating to soft drinks. Now the resturants ovens are another story.
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ehhh smogs are easy to come by.......


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