What Motor Oil You Running?
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There is a lot behind it, but i'll try and sum it up in a nutshell. The first number is the oil viscosity when its cold, and the second number is when its warmed up. A lot of people mistake the "W" in 5w-30 (for example) for "weight" but it actually stands for "weather." Most people recommend to switch from a 5w to a 10w after around 100K or so here in Cali, simply because higher mileage, aged motors are more prone to leaks due to time and mileage, so the thicker the oil is when its cold, the less it the motor will leak (in theory).
Those who live in climates where it varies from extreme cold to extreme hot, will run an oil such as a 0W-40. The 0w gives it ultimate capability to flow when its extremely cold out, to prevent engine wear on start up, and the 40w gives the motor ultimate protection when hot. 0W-30 or 0W-40 are excellent choices for any motor, especially LSX, but on older cars you may experience leaks when you didn't before. I used 0W-40 a few times in my Silverado with a 5.3 Vortec that has over a 100K on it, and didn't notice any more leaks than usual, but I already have a small bit of residual oil leaks on the oil pan, since the truck is ten years old.
Those who live in climates where it varies from extreme cold to extreme hot, will run an oil such as a 0W-40. The 0w gives it ultimate capability to flow when its extremely cold out, to prevent engine wear on start up, and the 40w gives the motor ultimate protection when hot. 0W-30 or 0W-40 are excellent choices for any motor, especially LSX, but on older cars you may experience leaks when you didn't before. I used 0W-40 a few times in my Silverado with a 5.3 Vortec that has over a 100K on it, and didn't notice any more leaks than usual, but I already have a small bit of residual oil leaks on the oil pan, since the truck is ten years old.
From article:
To make a 10w-40 oil, the manufacturer would start out with a 10 weight oil as the base stock. All by itself, this oil would thin out so much at normal operating temperatures that the oil film would be useless. So, they add these very special very long molecules, the VIIs. The VII molecules are as much as 1000 times as long as an oil molecule. The VII molecules curl up in a little ball at room temperature, but as the temperature gets higher they uncurl and stretch out, like a cat sleeping in the sunlight. The more stretched out the molecule is, the more it impedes the normal flow of the oil, thus raising the effective viscosity. Now, this sounds just a little too good to be true. Well, there are two catches: first, these molecules are not lubricants, so the more of them that you add the less oil you have sitting around lubricating things. Secondly, these VII molecules can be broken into pieces by various pressures and forces, like being squeezed through the transmission gears in a motorcycle or the hydraulic valves in a diesel engine. Every time a VII molecule gets broken, the oil loses some of its high temperature viscosity. Synthetic oils made from pure PAOs and/or Diesters typically have very few VIIs, so these oils are far less subject to viscosity breakdown due to shearing of the VII package. As a result, synthetics are far more stable in a motorcycle engine.
10w-30 oil increases its viscosity at high temperatures by a factor of three, which requires a significant amount of these VII molecules. 10w-40 oil increases its high temperature viscosity by a factor of four, which requires even more even longer molecules. 20w-50, which sounds a lot like 10w-40, only increases its high temperature viscosity by a factor of two and a half, so it requires fewer of these molecules than even 10w-30. 15w-40 also increases its high temperature viscosity by about two and a half, so this oil is also substantially more stable than 10w-40. Most passenger car oils today use inexpensive VII molecules that break apart relatively easily. Conversely, most diesel engine oil VIIs are chosen from more expensive chemicals that are more shear stable, since an oil change in a large diesel is expected to last for 15,000 to 150,000 miles.
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Here some info stating Mobil 1 is a Group III oil,
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forum...iii-mobil-1-a/
http://www.dodgedakotas.com/boards/ot/6432.html
http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forum...iii-mobil-1-a/
http://www.dodgedakotas.com/boards/ot/6432.html
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Mobile 1 High Mileage Fully synthetic 5W-30
$21.00 @ Walmart and $4.00 for an AC DELCo oil filter
2001 Camaro SS SLP LS1
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Kendall Synthetic Blend 5W-30
$18.00 for a Firestone Change w/ discount
98 Chevy Blazer 4.3L Vortec
$21.00 @ Walmart and $4.00 for an AC DELCo oil filter
2001 Camaro SS SLP LS1
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Kendall Synthetic Blend 5W-30
$18.00 for a Firestone Change w/ discount
98 Chevy Blazer 4.3L Vortec
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http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/rd30.aspx
Amsoil Dominator Racing Oil sometimes when I know Im going to be going to the track (road course) or similar.
Otherwise its just Amsoil Full Synthetic 10w-30 High Performance Blend.
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atm.aspx
Amsoil Dominator Racing Oil sometimes when I know Im going to be going to the track (road course) or similar.
Otherwise its just Amsoil Full Synthetic 10w-30 High Performance Blend.
http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atm.aspx
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Last was 5W30 Mobil1 but all the news about Mobil1 downgrading themselves I am more inclined to seek other oils for my next oil change.
And in Cali there are cars that use 0W30 VW does not recommend anything else for their turbo motors and a lot of factory turbo cars use 0 cold weight, also Honda is 0W20 if you don't use their recommended oil you can cause a SES light and a common code that shows up is a VTEC code, they design the motor to use that oil.
Turbo cars in general should use a low viscosity oil, this is dues to the turbo needing oil and if you run a thick oil like 20w50 it could cause issues with lubricating the turbo and cause binding. Although I am not sure what the full race guys are using I can only go off of what I know from a few people I have known with turbo cars.
And in Cali there are cars that use 0W30 VW does not recommend anything else for their turbo motors and a lot of factory turbo cars use 0 cold weight, also Honda is 0W20 if you don't use their recommended oil you can cause a SES light and a common code that shows up is a VTEC code, they design the motor to use that oil.
Turbo cars in general should use a low viscosity oil, this is dues to the turbo needing oil and if you run a thick oil like 20w50 it could cause issues with lubricating the turbo and cause binding. Although I am not sure what the full race guys are using I can only go off of what I know from a few people I have known with turbo cars.
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