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Old 03-14-2007, 01:19 AM
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Default Who knows about Salvage Titles (getting it changed to Rebuilt, erased, etc...)?

There's a great deal on a 1998 Mercedes SLK Kompressor hardtop convertible that I am thinking about picking up for the wife...

It has a salvage title because the car was stolen, and recovered, in New York... New York is a state that automatically converts cars to a salvage title when they are stolen.

I've seen the report, nothing was wrong with the car when it was recovered other than a cracked windshield (which I got an estimate to fix for $300). Had the car checked out at a Mercedes dealership and it's in great shape.

Basically, it's a great car for half the price due to the title... I can insure a salvage title but NOT FULL COVERAGE. If I get it inspected and converted to a REBUILT title I can get full coverage...

Does anyone know how to go about doing this? How much would it cost? I REALLY wish there was some way to get the Salvage title reversed since it was just a dumb state law that tagged it as such... Anyone? Thanks!
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You can't get a salvaged title "reversed" or changed.
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Originally Posted by toofazt
You can't get a salvaged title "reversed" or changed.
How hard is it to get it turned from a Salvage Certificate to a Rebuilt/Salvage Title (apparently it's probably a CERTIFICATE right now and becomes a Salvage TITLE when it is inspected and road worthy)...

Just trying to add up all the costs before I buy the car...

Right now we're looking at:

Tax/Tag/Registration (Varies)

Windshield ($300)

Title Conversion/Inspection (I have no clue)
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I have a Salvage Title on my WS.6 that I need to go to the DMV tomorrow and hand in all the paperwork for. I know I have to do the damn brake light test but what about smog?....Do I need to re-smog the car? I'm supposed to do it in August anyways!

Oh,..and I'd like to find out about that rebuild title thing aswell!
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I think the closest you can get is for them to put it under the category "other". You take the car to the DMV, and they have to check it out...that's all I remember..sorry
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Before you even think about buying a salvage vehicle from New York, contact your state DMV/MVA and find out if they will take a "salvage certificate" from the state of NY. Most states DO NOT! Ask me how I know.

If by chance they do, you should be able to go to your state's DMV/MVA website and see what is needed to get a clean title. Typically it's a State Police inspection (to make sure the car's not stolen, and that you have the parts that contain at least three of the original VIN numbers).

If your state does not accept a "New York Salvage Certificate" then you have to make the necessary repairs to bring the car back to roadworthy, take the car (towing only, you are not allowed to drive it) back to NY and go through their state inspection which will get you a title. You have to fill out a bunch of NY forms, send them about $300 and wait for them to tell you when your appt. is scheduled.

I bought two salvage vehicles from NY off ebay. Rather than go through the NY process I just had a shop place a lien against both vehicles and obtained new titles through the lien process. I would not suggest this as the best method as it also cost not only what the lien company charges, but then you have to pay the state taxes to obtain the title -- it was $900+ for one vehicle and $1,200+ for the other.

Good luck and hope your state accepts a NY salvage title.
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I'm assuming you're in Cali? California does accept salvage from New York. California will always call it a 'salvaged vehicle' no matter if you put it back on the road. i just did one last year. feel free to pm me if you have any questions.
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8tsixt and FordGirlGoneBad,

Yeah, the vehicle is already in Cali, been accepted by Cali and Carfax says was issued a Cali Salvage Title/Certificate (so I still am confused as to if it is titled)... So there's no worries of it coming from New York...

My main and only concern is being able to get it FULLY COVERED in insurance (it's for my wife and I don't want to skimp on her protection/car) and not have some ridiculously high rate because of a title...

DaGeneral, "other" sounds better than salvage

WS6 Rampage, please let me know how it all goes

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Every car has a title, even if it's salvaged. So the car you would get would come with a salvaged title. I don't know about insurance, just call your insurance company and ask them.
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Originally Posted by toofazt
Every car has a title, even if it's salvaged. So the car you would get would come with a salvaged title. I don't know about insurance, just call your insurance company and ask them.
Sorry - not true. When a car is considered salvage in some states (NY being one of them) they are issued a "salvage certificate." This is not a title. The car can either be titled in your state (if your state reciprocates) or you have to return to the state the car was purchased in, go through their inspection process and then they'll issue a title for you to take to your state MVA.

I buy salvage cars/trucks, fix them and resell them. Most states do issue titles, but NY isn't one of them. I don't believe New Jersey is either.

And, to the original poster - your insurance company shouldn't care whether or not it was previously salvaged. If it's totalled at some later date it might become an issue, but more than likely not. Also, sometimes when you get a salvage vehicle retitled there's no indication of the salvage history at all. My 2000 T/A was a salvage car -- but the title seach done in Maryland came back clear, so now it has a completely clear title. I have a truck that came back with a salvage history and that's stamped on the title, so the next owner will know it was a salvage vehicle.
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Originally Posted by FordGirlGoneBad
Sorry - not true. When a car is considered salvage in some states (NY being one of them) they are issued a "salvage certificate." This is not a title. The car can either be titled in your state (if your state reciprocates) or you have to return to the state the car was purchased in, go through their inspection process and then they'll issue a title for you to take to your state MVA.

I buy salvage cars/trucks, fix them and resell them. Most states do issue titles, but NY isn't one of them. I don't believe New Jersey is either.

And, to the original poster - your insurance company shouldn't care whether or not it was previously salvaged. If it's totalled at some later date it might become an issue, but more than likely not. Also, sometimes when you get a salvage vehicle retitled there's no indication of the salvage history at all. My 2000 T/A was a salvage car -- but the title seach done in Maryland came back clear, so now it has a completely clear title. I have a truck that came back with a salvage history and that's stamped on the title, so the next owner will know it was a salvage vehicle.
Cool, thanks for the info!
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theres no issue with buying a salvaged car, the only problem you will have is that not a whole lot of banks will cover a loan on one.
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Salvage can have full coverage insurance, I drive all salvage and I guarentee you all my **** is as nice as any clean title example. I build all theft cars. Not a damn thing wrong with salvage but understand salvage is salvage for life.
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Originally Posted by transambandit
theres no issue with buying a salvaged car, the only problem you will have is that not a whole lot of banks will cover a loan on one.
That's not a problem because both our cars are paid off so if we have to we can get a loan on them untill the extra car (the Focus she is driving now) is sold...

Shouldn't take too long... It's 2002 Focus SE that is in MINT condition with 49,000 miles on it. Plus it has the Zetec

I even upgraded it with MSD coils, wires, Brisk plugs and a CAI
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1998 MERCEDES-BENZ SLK 230
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2.3L L4 PFI DOHC 16V / REAR WHEEL DRIVE
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Estimated length of ownership 10 months 3 yrs. 9 mo. 4 yrs. 2 mo.
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Estimated miles driven per year --- 14,600/yr 1,825/yr
Last reported odometer reading 1,450 53,005 60,719




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Salvage | Junk | Rebuilt No Problem Alert!
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Owner 1
Purchased: 1998
Type: Personal
Where: Connecticut
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 4/23/98 - 7/21/98
(2 months)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
03/31/1998 Caliber Motors
Anaheim, CA
714-777-1900
www.calibermotors.com Vehicle sold
04/23/1998 Connecticut
Motor Vehicle Dept. First owner reported
Registered as
personal vehicle




Owner 2
Purchased: 1998
Where: Connecticut
Est. miles/year: ---
Est. length owned: 7/21/98 - 3/4/99
(7 months)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
07/21/1998 1,450 Connecticut
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Stamford, CT
Title #024170783 Title issued or updated
New owner reported




Owner 3
Purchased: 1999
Where: New Jersey, New York
Est. miles/year: 14,600/yr
Est. length owned: 3/4/99 - 12/29/02
(3 yrs. 9 mo.)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
03/04/1999 8,961 New Jersey
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Teterboro, NJ Title issued or updated
New owner reported
04/14/1999 9,542 New Jersey
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Cliffside Park, NJ Title issued or updated
04/17/1999 Inspection Co.
New Jersey Vehicle Inspected
Anti-theft device present
at the time of inspection
05/29/2001 40,609 Inspection Co.
New Jersey Vehicle Inspected
08/08/2001 40,883 Inspection Co.
New Jersey Vehicle Inspected
Anti-theft device present
at the time of inspection
08/24/2001 42,347 Inspection Co.
New Jersey Vehicle Inspected
Anti-theft device present
at the time of inspection
12/04/2001 46,000 Inspection Co.
New York Vehicle Inspected
Anti-theft device present
at the time of inspection
02/26/2002 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Staten Island, NY Title issued or updated
Loan or lien reported
Registration updated when owner moved
the vehicle to a new location
03/05/2002 53,005 New York
New York City Area
Inspection Station Passed safety inspection
Passed emissions inspection
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05/28/2002 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept. Vehicle reported stolen
Please contact NICB to verify this
vehicle's stolen status
by calling 800-447-6282 x 2
or by completing the NICB web form
09/17/2002 New York
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Elmsford, NY SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED




Owner 4
Purchased: 2002
Where: California
Est. miles/year: 1,825/yr
Est. length owned: 12/29/02 - present
(4 yrs. 2 mo.)



Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
12/29/2002 55,530 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Hacienda Heights, CA New owner reported
SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
01/14/2003 55,919 California
Inspection Station
Los Angeles, CA Passed emissions inspection
02/07/2003 California
Motor Vehicle Dept. SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
06/01/2003 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Culver City, CA Duplicate title issued
SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED
06/16/2003 California
Motor Vehicle Dept.
Culver City, CA Registration updated when owner moved
the vehicle to a new location
12/29/2004 60,173 California
Inspection Station
Los Angeles, CA Failed emissions inspection
06/30/2005 60,719 Caliber Motors
Anaheim, CA
714-777-1900
www.calibermotors.com Vehicle serviced
03/15/2007 Mercedes-Benz USA, Inc. No recalls open for repair


It looks like it already has an actual TITLE right? I won't need to get NY to inspect it or anything right? Thanks everyone! I REALLY appreciate it
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Doesn't look like any problems to me, I don't know what a California salvage certificate consists of, but if it's in California, and you're in California it's nothing that can't be taken care of at your local MVA/DMV.

Good luck!
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california salvaged titles are REVIVIED...not rebuilt. it will have to go through a California Highway Patrol Inspection to get it revived. But even at that point, i maybe be mistaken, but it should say revived on the title... and not salvaged... u should check out this link.. i havent read it latley so yeah just see for yourself
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/brochures/howto/htvr13.htm
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salvage is permanent in CA. revived yes but the salvage branding remains for life.btw highway patrol inspection only applies if the car is randomly "flagged" or if its missing a ******* emmissions/2ndary VIN label
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Originally Posted by DEMONBIRD
8tsixt and FordGirlGoneBad,

Yeah, the vehicle is already in Cali, been accepted by Cali and Carfax says was issued a Cali Salvage Title/Certificate (so I still am confused as to if it is titled)... So there's no worries of it coming from New York...

My main and only concern is being able to get it FULLY COVERED in insurance (it's for my wife and I don't want to skimp on her protection/car) and not have some ridiculously high rate because of a title...

DaGeneral, "other" sounds better than salvage

WS6 Rampage, please let me know how it all goes

Thanks for your input, keep it coming !
Great news!!......If your the original owner,......you don't need to smog the ******!!.(If your not the previous owner who just bought the vehical back then your gonna have to smog it!....sorry)...I was good to go. All I need to do is a brake light test, vehical verification (have someone from the DMV check the VIN) and turn over my plates for new ones!...... THATS IT!!!!


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