2002 C5 Z06 50k...with Ad..
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2002 C5 Z06 50k...with Ad..
It's mostly stock with about 51k on it. Owner claims mint condition but It's from Wisconsin which worries me as salt can be flung on to just by other cars parking by it in the same garage. I know he's asking way over blue book so what is the fair market value on this car...Any advice would be great as I really want to get in a C5 Z06... Thanks
Ad..https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/6156676817.html
Ad..https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/6156676817.html
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The car has been in Arizona since 2004, I don't think you need to be too worried about the leftover salt from the 2002-2004 period.
I'd say fair market value is $17,500-$20,000. While I've seen some lower mileage cars (25K-35K) list for $19K-$21K there's no way of knowing if they were problem-free and needing nothing like this 50k mile car claims to be.
$20K is probably their bottom line which in my mind is reasonable. It does appear that there are plenty of 30K-45K mile cars out there under $20K....and $1K-$2K or more cheaper than this one. I'd look around. There are plenty to look at and compare.
I'd say fair market value is $17,500-$20,000. While I've seen some lower mileage cars (25K-35K) list for $19K-$21K there's no way of knowing if they were problem-free and needing nothing like this 50k mile car claims to be.
$20K is probably their bottom line which in my mind is reasonable. It does appear that there are plenty of 30K-45K mile cars out there under $20K....and $1K-$2K or more cheaper than this one. I'd look around. There are plenty to look at and compare.
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"Mint" condition is a myth for a 51k mile car that's only 15 years old. There are examples with less than half that mileage, probably some with less than 1/4 that mileage. If this one is mint, then how would one describe a true garage queen show prepped example that has under 10k miles? You can basically disregard anyone who makes claims of "mint" for a car that's been driven 3400 miles per year for a decade and a half and hasn't undergone a nut and bolt rotisserie restoration.
However, at least in the ad, the seller doesn't seem to make any claims about mint condition:
The seller seems to be realistic about the condition summary and it sounds like typical wear and tear for the mileage and age. If you have been in touch with him and he's otherwise claiming the car is "mint/perfect", then I would ask him to explain how he can consider a car mint with the above mentioned concerns that he has already outlined in his own ad. Buying a used car is always a risk - when/if there are inconsistencies in the seller's claims/story, that's a red flag IMO.
However, at least in the ad, the seller doesn't seem to make any claims about mint condition:
As you can see in the pictures, it is in great condition inside and out. The paint and body is in great condition. There are a very few small rock chips on it from normal road wear which are hardly worth mentioning. There are two chips in the windshield that have been stabilized so they will not develop any further. It is very clean overall, and when freshly waxed, looks like glass. The car has never had any paint or body work done.
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Thank you for the input from both you guys. The seller kind of contradicts himself in the title saying "Mint Condition" but then lists small issues. He also claims "like new" with over 50k miles which is impossible IMO especially since he's not the original owner so he has no clue how the car was treated before him.
I also agree the car is worth 20k max. I may be willing to pay that but I do see lower mile cars listed for that price all the time. My problem is most of them I find around my area are red or black and I don't want either of those colors.
I also agree the car is worth 20k max. I may be willing to pay that but I do see lower mile cars listed for that price all the time. My problem is most of them I find around my area are red or black and I don't want either of those colors.
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No offense to any c5 owners, but I can't figure out why anybody would pay that for a c5. You can get a clean C6 for that price and it's a MUCH nicer car... Hell there is a clean c6 for cheaper with very similar miles... I wouldn't pay a dime over 16k for that c5 z06 lol
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/6155183349.html
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/6155183349.html
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No offense to any c5 owners, but I can't figure out why anybody would pay that for a c5. You can get a clean C6 for that price and it's a MUCH nicer car... Hell there is a clean c6 for cheaper with very similar miles... I wouldn't pay a dime over 16k for that c5 z06 lol
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/6155183349.html
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/6155183349.html
If you're looking for an M6 which brings more money than an Automatic, then an automatic C5 or even C6 won't do. What's a manual C6 Z06 go for?
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No offense to any c5 owners, but I can't figure out why anybody would pay that for a c5. You can get a clean C6 for that price and it's a MUCH nicer car... Hell there is a clean c6 for cheaper with very similar miles... I wouldn't pay a dime over 16k for that c5 z06 lol
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/6155183349.html
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/6155183349.html
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I honestly don't care much for the C6 body style unless it's the Z06. If I can get a good deal on one of those I would jump on it.Thanks for all the help, the seller doesn't want to budge on his price it seems so I'm going to keep on looking.
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In a few months that seller will be hit with reality and will likely be contacting you with a "special" reduced price. With any luck, you would have found a much better overall Z06 by then.
One of my axioms with collector cars is that if you have intentions of selling your vehicle within 6 months, and a reasonable offer comes your way.....you take it. More often than not you will regret having passed on a fair offer. The majority of sellers don't price their cars to sell. So when someone asks about your car, it may be the only one. Best time to sell your car is when people are interested in it....not when you're interested in selling it.
One of my axioms with collector cars is that if you have intentions of selling your vehicle within 6 months, and a reasonable offer comes your way.....you take it. More often than not you will regret having passed on a fair offer. The majority of sellers don't price their cars to sell. So when someone asks about your car, it may be the only one. Best time to sell your car is when people are interested in it....not when you're interested in selling it.
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One of my axioms with collector cars is that if you have intentions of selling your vehicle within 6 months, and a reasonable offer comes your way.....you take it. More often than not you will regret having passed on a fair offer. The majority of sellers don't price their cars to sell. So when someone asks about your car, it may be the only one. Best time to sell your car is when people are interested in it....not when you're interested in selling it.
Most sellers think they have a pot of gold on their hands, looking for top dollar out of cars that are average at best. You can't blame folks for wanting the most money possible for their vehicle, but when you see some of these cars stay for sale for years (literally years, I've watched several like this in my area) you have to wonder why their owners' even bother to list them. I think they are just dreamers who are trying to win the lotto, so to speak. They don't really want to sell the car, but if someone comes along and is so awestruck by the car that they make an impulse buy without even bothering to investigate the market, well then so be it.
Of course, not all cars are overpriced by such a large margin. Sometimes you get these sellers that just won't budge a penny and will derail a deal over a very small percentage. That also makes no sense to me, assuming they actually want the car gone; who knows how much longer it might take to get another offer, one which may not be any better anyway. If an offer is within 90-95% of the asking price and it's been for sale for more than a few weeks, it really shouldn't even be a debate - take it and be happy that you can move on.
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No offense to any c5 owners, but I can't figure out why anybody would pay that for a c5. You can get a clean C6 for that price and it's a MUCH nicer car... Hell there is a clean c6 for cheaper with very similar miles... I wouldn't pay a dime over 16k for that c5 z06 lol
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/6155183349.html
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/6155183349.html
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No offense to any c5 owners, but I can't figure out why anybody would pay that for a c5. You can get a clean C6 for that price and it's a MUCH nicer car... Hell there is a clean c6 for cheaper with very similar miles... I wouldn't pay a dime over 16k for that c5 z06 lol
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/6155183349.html
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/6155183349.html