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lt1camaro95 03-22-2010 08:25 PM

ABS and Brake light after big tire install
 
I installed 305/45/18 on my 02 TA and the tires are 28in tall. As soon as I started to drive, the ABS light and the brake light kicked on. I checked the connectors on the back brakes where I put the tires on and they are still connected. Is there some issue with this?

MYSTIC-1SC 03-22-2010 08:39 PM

its a common problem when stepping up to a tire that much larger than stock. I just swapped to a 28inch dragradial also and it set my abs and brake lights on the instrument cluster off. Im going to see if my tuner can't work something out when we tune the car this coming weekend.

Saturn5 03-22-2010 08:55 PM

How much of a difference can you get away with without tripping the ABS or traction control? I have traction control on my TA and I'm thinking about a 17/18 combo, but the overall sizes are going to off slightly. I'm thinking about 275/40-17 and 295/35/18.

lt1camaro95 03-22-2010 09:45 PM

I just realized it that it is caused by the front and back tires being different diameters. Is there any tuning option that fixes this?

Saturn5 03-26-2010 05:08 PM

Bump. Anyone?
Any idea what the tolerance is for difference in tire sizes front to rear?

mr_biscuitz 03-26-2010 05:24 PM

theres really nothing you or the tuner can do. I took my gauge cluster out and covered the bulbs up so it wouldnt look like a christmas tree when Im driving. With my slicks and skinnies mine does the same thing, it also affects the abs working properly or at least did on mine.

Scooter76 03-26-2010 05:48 PM

I have the same problem ! i just switched to 325-50-15 NITTO's and the brake light came on .... I suppose thats why my cruize control dont work anymore ?????

Snake_Skinner 03-26-2010 05:52 PM

believe you have to be within .5 of diameter between front and back tires

TS6 03-26-2010 09:54 PM

Pull the ABS fuse. Problem solved, easy to reverse.

Facelift 03-26-2010 10:32 PM

I heard it was an inch.
I have 18 in front and 19 out back and the difference between the two tires is .8".

Saturn5 03-26-2010 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by Facelift (Post 13093926)
I heard it was an inch.
I have 18 in front and 19 out back and the difference between the two tires is .8".

That's an inch in overall tire diameter?
Do you have traction control too or just ABS?

SJMMFGINC 03-26-2010 11:06 PM

The problem you're seeing is common. You're ABS system is not calibrated for the tires you've chosen. There is no tuning software available for your situation. Our ABS delete kits cure braking issues and also allow for bias control with the adjustable proportioning valve.

Saturn5 03-27-2010 11:40 AM

Just deleting ABS isn't a workable solution to me for daily driving. It would be fine for temporary deletion at the track, but that's about it.

The question is how the ABS functions. If it operates based on a difference in speed between wheels, then the issue is just keeping non-stock wheels all close enough to the same diameter and what that allowable range is.

98Camarod 03-27-2010 02:12 PM

You can get rid of the light if that's what is bothering you. I don't really know if it affects the ABS or not when you do it though.

Saturn5 03-27-2010 02:32 PM

I'm interested in keeping both ABS and Traction Control fully operational. My question is how much that limits my tire choices. If I run the same size tires all around, even if they're non-stock, that "should" still work. There has to be some variance allowed just for going around corners. The question is how much variance in wheel speeds is allowed before it throws a code.

Example, I'm looking at a 17/18 combo with a 275/40-17 front tire. I have a few options for rear tires:
285/35-18 is 0.2" taller in overall diameter - 0.8% difference in wheel speed
295/35-18 is 0.4" taller, 1.8% difference in wheel speed.

I know the 275/40-17 & 295/35-18 combo is pretty common. Does everyone who runs this disable their ABS? How about Traction Control?

Asian LSX 03-27-2010 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by TS6 (Post 13093785)
Pull the ABS fuse. Problem solved, easy to reverse.

I may have to do this as a temporary fix when I get my new wheels/tires before I put the ABS delete kit on. So by taking out the fuse the car is good to go with no issues except for the light being on?

99Bluz28 03-27-2010 05:47 PM

I run a 275/35/18 front, and a 275/40/18 rear, I have my Diablo programmer set to a tire size of 255/40/18. No abs lights/problem in my car.

ls2 bait 03-27-2010 05:54 PM

you have about a 5% variance allowance on most cars. also depends on vehicle speed.

Facelift 03-27-2010 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by Saturn5 (Post 13094028)
That's an inch in overall tire diameter?
Do you have traction control too or just ABS?

I have ABS and Traction Control

It was a .8" in diameter

Original Tires = 275/40/17
New Tires
Front = 255/35/18
Back = 285/30/19

TS6 03-27-2010 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Asian LSX (Post 13096574)
I may have to do this as a temporary fix when I get my new wheels/tires before I put the ABS delete kit on. So by taking out the fuse the car is good to go with no issues except for the light being on?


No issues, besides the obvious light and the fact your ABS won't function.


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