Ultra High Performance Summer Tire Ratings
12-09-2013, 02:08 PM
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In my most humble of opinions, if you are shopping for an ultra high performance tire ride and noise are useless criteria and treadlife is border line useless. Concessions made to improve those three tend to decrease the ultimate capability of the tire, which is in direct contrast to their purpose.
12-09-2013, 05:36 PM
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What I found interesting is that the Bridgestone RE 760 was rated as highly as it is. If I'm not mistaken, they're actually an (ultra high performance) "all season" tire, but they DO perform. I put a set of them on my wife's Jag sedan two summers ago, and I'm very pleased with them, especially in the rain. We were on the road in the summer of 2012, when that deluge of a storm charged up the east coast, and these tires provided excellent traction despite the downpour.
12-10-2013, 11:39 PM
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I've learned a loooong time ago that Consumer Reports is a rag I use for fire starter. Outside of that, it was basically wrong on anything I've owned (that they rated). I understand maybe I got one item that might go against their ratings but I can't imagine 6+ things being wrong.
12-12-2013, 07:24 PM
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I currently have Michelin Pilot Super Sports on my '01 SS in 18" and can honestly say it's the best darn tire in dry and wet I have ever ran. Unbelievable grip in the wet vs. what I expected. CR steered me true.
I've learned a loooong time ago that Consumer Reports is a rag I use for fire starter. Outside of that, it was basically wrong on anything I've owned (that they rated). I understand maybe I got one item that might go against their ratings but I can't imagine 6+ things being wrong.
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12-14-2013, 11:42 PM
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As far as what someone mentioned about road noise for a 'super performance tire' that all depends on the car and it's use. If it's still a street car and maybe a daily, comfort is nice!
If it's a weekend/track car, I agree!
12-15-2013, 01:11 AM
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I had to buy tires that were relatively cheap my last "go around" because I was on a budget and had a shitty job. I went with the Hankook Ventus V12's, and now that I no longer have a budget... I think that I will stick with them. I truly believe that they are the best tire for the money!
P.S- Consumer Reports blows as a whole. It's a good research tool to learn about something new, but completely useless from that point on.
P.S- Consumer Reports blows as a whole. It's a good research tool to learn about something new, but completely useless from that point on.
12-15-2013, 09:56 AM
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I dont know enough about Consumer Reports to trust or not trust their ratings. However the Hankook Ventus V12 is a really popular tire among G8 drivers. I have ran the original BFG KDW tires and the Nitto NT05 tires. I miss the original KDW tires they performed the best in all environments. I am on my 2nd set of Nitto's and I can honestly say I am over them. I would not trust them in rain or in colder climates. They are great tires for taking corners though. The harder sidewall does affect the harshness of the ride for a DD, and the lower tread depth does make certain parts of your body pucker when driving through rain. I am looking at the Michelin Super Sports and the Invo's for my next set of tires. But how you drive and how your car is set up and the power you put down all play a role in how the tire will perform, which is why I am neutral on what some review company rates a tire as.
12-15-2013, 03:01 PM
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I am on my 2nd set of Nitto's and I can honestly say I am over them. I would not trust them in rain or in colder climates. They are great tires for taking corners though. The harder sidewall does affect the harshness of the ride for a DD, and the lower tread depth does make certain parts of your body pucker when driving through rain.
I don't get the people who complain about them in the rain. I've had the car out in the rain (raining hard) and even have hit some standing water on the highway. The tires haven't been an issues and I drive without the nanny control on. Maybe it is just the way the cars are being driven that you and others feel the tires suck in rain.
For ever 1 time I hear "NT05's suck in rain" I know 3 others who don't have issues. Vegas is one of the worst places I've driven in during/after rain. It is known as slick city FWIW.
12-15-2013, 04:49 PM
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how tires perform is also dependant on how much power you are putting down. I am pushing wel past 400rwhp with a stall and good sized cam. I have driven the NT05's in the summer/winter of Northern VA and FL so I have had my share of cold weather and pouring rain. They are good tires, I just want more.
12-16-2013, 05:07 PM
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Except that BF Goodrich g-Force Sport COMP-2 tires are about the same and a bit cheaper. 
I have them on my RS for summer, they are a step-up from the older model KDWs.
CR is a guide, not a God -- it's a data point and useful information, it's a starting point. Show us what other resource you consider to have better or more accurate ratings?
I have them on my RS for summer, they are a step-up from the older model KDWs. CR is a guide, not a God -- it's a data point and useful information, it's a starting point. Show us what other resource you consider to have better or more accurate ratings?
I had to buy tires that were relatively cheap my last "go around" because I was on a budget and had a shitty job. I went with the Hankook Ventus V12's, and now that I no longer have a budget... I think that I will stick with them. I truly believe that they are the best tire for the money!
P.S- Consumer Reports blows as a whole. It's a good research tool to learn about something new, but completely useless from that point on.
P.S- Consumer Reports blows as a whole. It's a good research tool to learn about something new, but completely useless from that point on.
12-16-2013, 06:33 PM
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Except that BF Goodrich g-Force Sport COMP-2 tires are about the same and a bit cheaper. I have them on my RS for summer, they are a step-up from the older model KDWs.
CR is a guide, not a God -- it's a data point and useful information, it's a starting point. Show us what other resource you consider to have better or more accurate ratings?
I have them on my RS for summer, they are a step-up from the older model KDWs. CR is a guide, not a God -- it's a data point and useful information, it's a starting point. Show us what other resource you consider to have better or more accurate ratings?
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...12-evo-page-10
I also read through many of the reviews on tirerack for RWD sports cars with a higher than average amount of horsepower. (300+)
12-16-2013, 10:59 PM
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I think they should add the year on all their ratings too, looking at their sports car car ratings, they have a 2010 Camaro still in their car ratings but compare to a 2011 Mustang but in the main list they don't have the year -- you have to look at the model year tested in the details...
i found this pretty informative when deciding what tires to consider:
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test
http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...omparison-test