Jegs Pro Stars or Drag Lites skinnies
04-16-2007, 07:23 PM
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Jegs Pro Stars or Drag Lites skinnies okay so i'm kinda undecided rite now. anybody have pics of a sunset orange trans am with either or even anybody but mostly sunset orange cuz i wanna see wat it looks like cuz thats the color of my T/A.
help me out guys i appreciate it
help me out guys i appreciate it
04-16-2007, 10:53 PM
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Don't use any take-off "drag" wheel which in reality is not a drag wheel.
Unless you're only doing this to look like you drag race, then it's ok. I wouldn' t consider them as any alternative as a drag racing wheel. They are very heavy and not worth it in my opinion. They are not too far off in weight from the stock wheels. I'd imagine this is why the weld XP wheels were removed from production...just too damn heavy.
If you want an economy wheel, choose the draglite or prostar setup. If you want a wheel that in essence is like removing another 50lbs of converted static weight (over a prostar/draglite combo) and want a wheel that fits perfect, then our Bogart wheels are your best choice. They will cost you slightly more, but you get what you pay for.
If you you want a wheel that has show-quality characteristics, once again, our wheels are best to consider. Wheels make the car and is probably the most noticable modification you can make...not really an area to skimp on in my opinion.
Rotational weight/unsprung weight should never be overlooked. It will effect handling, braking as well as overall performance. It has a much greater affect on performance pound for pound vs. static weight.
Good luck with your choices.
Unless you're only doing this to look like you drag race, then it's ok. I wouldn' t consider them as any alternative as a drag racing wheel. They are very heavy and not worth it in my opinion. They are not too far off in weight from the stock wheels. I'd imagine this is why the weld XP wheels were removed from production...just too damn heavy.
If you want an economy wheel, choose the draglite or prostar setup. If you want a wheel that in essence is like removing another 50lbs of converted static weight (over a prostar/draglite combo) and want a wheel that fits perfect, then our Bogart wheels are your best choice. They will cost you slightly more, but you get what you pay for.
If you you want a wheel that has show-quality characteristics, once again, our wheels are best to consider. Wheels make the car and is probably the most noticable modification you can make...not really an area to skimp on in my opinion.
Rotational weight/unsprung weight should never be overlooked. It will effect handling, braking as well as overall performance. It has a much greater affect on performance pound for pound vs. static weight.
Good luck with your choices.
04-16-2007, 11:12 PM
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I like the draglite on the TA. The take-off "drag" wheels might be heavier, but they hold up better for occational street driving and when you have tires mounted.
04-17-2007, 01:11 AM
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JBM, I do see you're point. But I disagree with the reasoning of using the take-off wheels. Those wheels are cheap imitation wheels far apart from the real thing... If the only consideration is an economy wheel, stick with a weld prostar/draglite combo.
There is little to gain from a heavy wheel that only looks like a drag wheel while giving you you terrible handling characteristics and does esentially nothing for performance. Like mentioned, if you only want it to look like a drag car, then by all means, pick them up. I wouldn' t consider them for any other reason.
One primary reason for going to a drag setup is to remove rotational mass/unsprung weight. When you have a wheel that weighs almost the same as the stock setup and ruins handling, why bother?
If you want a wheel that holds up well for the street, use a street wheel. At least handling and general street driving is not hampered.
Just my .02
There is little to gain from a heavy wheel that only looks like a drag wheel while giving you you terrible handling characteristics and does esentially nothing for performance. Like mentioned, if you only want it to look like a drag car, then by all means, pick them up. I wouldn' t consider them for any other reason.
One primary reason for going to a drag setup is to remove rotational mass/unsprung weight. When you have a wheel that weighs almost the same as the stock setup and ruins handling, why bother?
If you want a wheel that holds up well for the street, use a street wheel. At least handling and general street driving is not hampered.
Just my .02
04-17-2007, 02:05 AM
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Bogarts are awesome and I plan to get some someday for race only but if your going to drive them on the street then go with the ProStars.They are still lighter than your stock wheels.Ive seen to many pictures like this for me to buy bogarts for the street.
04-17-2007, 02:30 AM
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Weld's Prostar's or Draglite's are far lighter than the stock wheels especially when used with a slick! I've driven on a set of draglite's for years without any problems at all. What is the weight difference between a Weld wheel and a comparable Bogart wheel?
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04-17-2007, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DisturbingDaPeaze
but welds you can DD
bogarts are not recommended
i seen pics/accidents
bogarts are not recommended
i seen pics/accidents
A drag wheel is built and intended for drag racing.
Regarding damages, I believe in aprox. 9 years, for every F-body car they have been built for, I can still count on one hand how many have ever been damaged. This is not to state our wheels can't fail...they are built for drag racing.
We've got F-body members who also have had their weld prostars fail as well...when someone uses a wheel for a use it is not intended for, there are risks involved.
04-17-2007, 09:07 AM
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Funny, my co-worker has the prostars on his 9 second 67 camaro, and stamped right on the wheel is "legal for street use." I was admiring the huge meat he had mounted on his prostars, and I picked one up, and almost fainted. I could pick up his huge @ss tire and rim with my pinky finger. One of my ZO6 rims and tire ways more than BOTH of his rear slicks and tires! I was seriously lookin into buying a set for street use, but after reading this thread I am having my doubts...
04-17-2007, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by FirebirdStud
Funny, my co-worker has the prostars on his 9 second 67 camaro, and stamped right on the wheel is "legal for street use." I was admiring the huge meat he had mounted on his prostars, and I picked one up, and almost fainted. I could pick up his huge @ss tire and rim with my pinky finger. One of my ZO6 rims and tire ways more than BOTH of his rear slicks and tires! I was seriously lookin into buying a set for street use, but after reading this thread I am having my doubts...
It says not legal for street use on my fronts, nothing on the back.
04-17-2007, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by SiL3NtXWS6
Are you sure we are talking about the same prostars? My tire + rim weighs about 45lbs... lol
It says not legal for street use on my fronts, nothing on the back.
It says not legal for street use on my fronts, nothing on the back.
And yeah, stamped on the inside of his rear rim said legal for street use.
I didn't think they would be recomended for the street... one pothole and you are left with a bent @ss rim...
04-17-2007, 09:56 AM
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Not really funny...You may have a false sense of security. DOT legal represented on the rear of a prostar does not mean its ok for a daily driven car. Weld drag wheels are "not for use in road, sports, solo, or autocross racing". They state this themselves. Call them and ask if you don' t believe me.
Take one of their Prostar/Draglite wheels, tell them when you broke it during gingerly street driving and you'd like it repaired. They will tell you that you shouldn't have used it on the street and it won' t be repaired.
To give you another example since you may be confused with wording, a MT ET Street tire is DOT approved but is "not for use on highways". DOT does not give authority for daily driving.
The front runner should be of biggest concern taking most of the stress from the car...weld vividly etches "for drag use only" on the wheel. If weld drag wheels were good for street use or daily driving, they would be using it as a promotional slogan.
Regarding weights, the prostar is light, but there are wheels MUCH lighter if your looking for best gains. Take welds high-end wheels...a prostar/draglite doesn't hold a candle up to their high-ended wheels. Same goes with our Bogart wheels, ours are about 30% lighter then a Prostar/Draglite combo!!! So if you can lift your friends wheel up with a pinky, just think how much lighter high-end wheels can yield for you.
In the end, you guys can argue street usage, but a drag wheel is meant for drag racing and not street daily driven use. Stated again, if you insist on using them on the street, there are going to be risks involved since you're using them against what all drag wheel manufactures recommends.
Take one of their Prostar/Draglite wheels, tell them when you broke it during gingerly street driving and you'd like it repaired. They will tell you that you shouldn't have used it on the street and it won' t be repaired.
To give you another example since you may be confused with wording, a MT ET Street tire is DOT approved but is "not for use on highways". DOT does not give authority for daily driving.
The front runner should be of biggest concern taking most of the stress from the car...weld vividly etches "for drag use only" on the wheel. If weld drag wheels were good for street use or daily driving, they would be using it as a promotional slogan.
Regarding weights, the prostar is light, but there are wheels MUCH lighter if your looking for best gains. Take welds high-end wheels...a prostar/draglite doesn't hold a candle up to their high-ended wheels. Same goes with our Bogart wheels, ours are about 30% lighter then a Prostar/Draglite combo!!! So if you can lift your friends wheel up with a pinky, just think how much lighter high-end wheels can yield for you.
In the end, you guys can argue street usage, but a drag wheel is meant for drag racing and not street daily driven use. Stated again, if you insist on using them on the street, there are going to be risks involved since you're using them against what all drag wheel manufactures recommends.
04-18-2007, 11:54 AM
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Firebird, that's ok. Many people believe think drag wheels are ok for daily driving. Havok, I have no way of knowing there was a post unless someone pointed them out. I'd be here all day if i searched through all the forum sections on all boards...lol. Thanks for pointing it out to me. I'll have to take a look.
04-18-2007, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SJM Manufacturing Inc
Not really funny...You may have a false sense of security. DOT legal represented on the rear of a prostar does not mean its ok for a daily driven car. Weld drag wheels are "not for use in road, sports, solo, or autocross racing". They state this themselves. Call them and ask if you don' t believe me.
Take one of their Prostar/Draglite wheels, tell them when you broke it during gingerly street driving and you'd like it repaired. They will tell you that you shouldn't have used it on the street and it won' t be repaired.
To give you another example since you may be confused with wording, a MT ET Street tire is DOT approved but is "not for use on highways". DOT does not give authority for daily driving.
The front runner should be of biggest concern taking most of the stress from the car...weld vividly etches "for drag use only" on the wheel. If weld drag wheels were good for street use or daily driving, they would be using it as a promotional slogan.
Regarding weights, the prostar is light, but there are wheels MUCH lighter if your looking for best gains. Take welds high-end wheels...a prostar/draglite doesn't hold a candle up to their high-ended wheels. Same goes with our Bogart wheels, ours are about 30% lighter then a Prostar/Draglite combo!!! So if you can lift your friends wheel up with a pinky, just think how much lighter high-end wheels can yield for you.
In the end, you guys can argue street usage, but a drag wheel is meant for drag racing and not street daily driven use. Stated again, if you insist on using them on the street, there are going to be risks involved since you're using them against what all drag wheel manufactures recommends.
Take one of their Prostar/Draglite wheels, tell them when you broke it during gingerly street driving and you'd like it repaired. They will tell you that you shouldn't have used it on the street and it won' t be repaired.
To give you another example since you may be confused with wording, a MT ET Street tire is DOT approved but is "not for use on highways". DOT does not give authority for daily driving.
The front runner should be of biggest concern taking most of the stress from the car...weld vividly etches "for drag use only" on the wheel. If weld drag wheels were good for street use or daily driving, they would be using it as a promotional slogan.
Regarding weights, the prostar is light, but there are wheels MUCH lighter if your looking for best gains. Take welds high-end wheels...a prostar/draglite doesn't hold a candle up to their high-ended wheels. Same goes with our Bogart wheels, ours are about 30% lighter then a Prostar/Draglite combo!!! So if you can lift your friends wheel up with a pinky, just think how much lighter high-end wheels can yield for you.
In the end, you guys can argue street usage, but a drag wheel is meant for drag racing and not street daily driven use. Stated again, if you insist on using them on the street, there are going to be risks involved since you're using them against what all drag wheel manufactures recommends.
