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Old 02-19-2008, 01:58 PM
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finnaly after driving around for awhile with the ms3 and no stall i have it in there.

and WOW theres a fat difference! lol. i do wish i had done it sooner. i threw a 3500 stall in there. it shreds the 315 bfgs like nothing. given they are getting bald. but there still fat drag radials. lol. next set will be mickeys. only have one problem rite now. under wide open throttle my car wont shift from 2nd to 3rd. i talked to RATCHETHEAD witch has been LOTS of help. and were pretty sure its a tunning problem. my car orginally came with 273s but has 342s. so im guessing that might be the problem. if not then the shift points need to be adjusted. my car was tuned to shift at 6600. thats where it stopped making power. im hoping all that needs to be done is just drop the shift point alil bit from 2nd to 3rd.


and for all those that have a cam with no stall. GET ONE! lol. i feel dumb waiting so long. its ALOT faster, and pulls way harder!
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How what cam are you using and how are you getting it to pass smog? I live in san jose and would like to get into heads and cam but i also need it to pass smog since its my daily driver.
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i felt the same way when i had the stock stall with a hotcam... it makes a HUGE difference!! i wish i would have done it sooner as well!!
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yea, its crazy the difference. and it even lopes better, and for some reason everybody tells me its louder. even at idle. i love it. on saturday im taking it to get the shift points and gear ratio fixed. hopefully it fixes my problem. then when i get a chance get some pulls on the dyno.

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only have one problem rite now. under wide open throttle my car wont shift from 2nd to 3rd. i talked to RATCHETHEAD witch has been LOTS of help. and were pretty sure its a tunning problem. my car orginally came with 273s but has 342s. so im guessing that might be the problem. if not then the shift points need to be adjusted. my car was tuned to shift at 6600. thats where it stopped making power. im hoping all that needs to be done is just drop the shift point alil bit from 2nd to 3rd.

Mine did the same thing....wouldn't shift from 2-3 at WOT unless we turned the shift points down to 5800. Less than a month later, my tranny went bye-bye. Hate to say it, but you might want to start saving for a new tranny. You've already talked to ACE....they would be a good choice for a tranny if it comes to that.
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and welcome the bad news! lol hahaha. dam well if it happens. then owell it happens. **** breaks when you wanna go fast.. yea im start saving for the new tranny. i really like what ace brings to the table ima be picking up i beleive its the stage two tranny we talked about.
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
finnaly after driving around for awhile with the ms3 and no stall i have it in there.

and WOW theres a fat difference! lol. i do wish i had done it sooner. i threw a 3500 stall in there. it shreds the 315 bfgs like nothing. given they are getting bald. but there still fat drag radials. lol. next set will be mickeys. only have one problem rite now. under wide open throttle my car wont shift from 2nd to 3rd. i talked to RATCHETHEAD witch has been LOTS of help. and were pretty sure its a tunning problem. my car orginally came with 273s but has 342s. so im guessing that might be the problem. if not then the shift points need to be adjusted. my car was tuned to shift at 6600. thats where it stopped making power. im hoping all that needs to be done is just drop the shift point alil bit from 2nd to 3rd.


and for all those that have a cam with no stall. GET ONE! lol. i feel dumb waiting so long. its ALOT faster, and pulls way harder!

We just fixed the same problem on a similar car

check out this thread. https://ls1tech.com/forums/automatic-transmission/860843-odd-2-3-shift-problem-4l60e.html

The fix was actually to bump the line pressure up quite a bit...worst case scenario is that it doesn't work and then you just tune it back down.
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cool! on sat. when i take car in. i will mention that to the tuner if we cant get it squared away. is bumping the line pressure bad for a stock tranny?
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well yes and no...your clutch packs will alst longer presumably from less slippage, but it does put a lot more pressure on the tranny fluid pump... your tranny probably will not last long anyways with the kind of power you're putting down now...

I'm in a rush, but i'll keep an eye on this thread if you have any questions.
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MS3 with stock stall I bet it feels like a beast now and before it wanted to pull you through intersections. You tranny is on the edge now though, lol As for the shift points a common issue that needs to be adressed via tuning as mentioned, no biggy
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ya i did my cam and stall at once. you cant even hear the wheels spinning until it shifts into 2nd gear at 10mph haha
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
cool! on sat. when i take car in. i will mention that to the tuner if we cant get it squared away. is bumping the line pressure bad for a stock tranny?
Running a big stall with an MS3 is one of the worst things you can do to the stock tranny, so what's a little bit more line pressure? It's like catching a cold while you're dying of a gunshot wound

May as well try it, you're probably gonna need a new trans soon anyway

Most of my research shows raising the shift points being the biggest reason why stock trannies crap out after a cam install. It's not so much the power. It's that lubrication becomes compromised at high shift points, and the lack of lubrication causes slipping and heat issues resulting in a dead tranny. I'd give the trans 2 weeks before it blows, but that's just a guess.
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well, there actually are plenty of people i have known through the years that have done this on a stock transmission, even adding a 150 shot as well. These people did have very low-mileage transmissions, though. I definately recommend getting AT LEAST a very beefed up 4L60e, but I'd recommend getting a TH-400 or maybe a beefed up 4L80e (a TH-400 w/ overdrive).

You're tranny definately will not last though.

BTW, how the hell did you drive the thing with the stock converter and the MS3? Did you have to get a line lock for stopping at red lights?
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lol..no line lock. i just put it in neutral. if i left it in D it would just get anoying and idle @ like 500 or 600.

hey i didnt know they had th400 with over drive..more info please!
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
lol..no line lock. i just put it in neutral. if i left it in D it would just get anoying and idle @ like 500 or 600.

hey i didnt know they had th400 with over drive..more info please!
He said 4l80e, its the heavy duty chev tranny and can get allot of info on it via this section. It has the same components as the th400 but with O/D and extra weight, plus its electronically controlled but can be rmvb like the 400 if desired. I am geting an 80 built right now and can't wait to beat on it
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Originally Posted by stangkiller2005
lol..no line lock. i just put it in neutral. if i left it in D it would just get anoying and idle @ like 500 or 600.


lol, i remember those days.... the bucking and surging while coming to a stop, and an idle so violent that the brakes mashed can barely keep it stopped at a light.. been there, done that!! or were you tuned for the cam?
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car was tuned at lethal performance by shaun in san antonio texas
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patt check your flouids in your tranny. they mite be low. check lazy ***!
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ill check tomorrow! lol
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iz it just me or do stalled cars feel slower from a roll? a low roll they punch hard..but lets say going like 45+?



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