Subaru BRZ vs Ford Mustang!
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True, probably no direct competitors...but the Hyundai Genesis and the Mazda Miata might come close to being possible competitors for it.
And this might even further reaffirm the potential Miata parallels/comparisons:
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...+and+Driver%29
And this might even further reaffirm the potential Miata parallels/comparisons:
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...+and+Driver%29
But I didn't know about this car till today when I saw a trailer of em on the HW. HOT looking car! But when I got back to the shop and looked it up the specs disappointed me big time. No turbo boxer? No AWD? I dunno, I figured that thing would be a menace with AWD and a turbo. Would be able to put the power down and stick like mad.
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Because numbers aren't everything. Some people here realize that, and it seems like every test done on this car is done by people who get that too. I would like to see what this car is like with some halfway-decent tires on it.
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I was browsing comparison videos on Motor Trend yesterday and noticed they bill this particular Mustang as dirt cheap, but it's a premium model with the performance package that came out to a hair over $30,000, yet they keep throwing around the base price and under $28k bullshit in the videos.
That 3.7 cost as much as a base GT. I'd never option up a V6 that much, but I do love the new 3.7. These things are making excellent power with bolt-ons and tuning. I'd definitely consider a base manual in a few years as a daily commuter.
Another point of interest is that it comes with a bad *** set of Pirellis. I think equivalent tires on the Scionbaru would close the gap considerably, but that's neither here nor there.
I think for the money the Mustang is worth they should have thrown the 370Z in the mix.
That 3.7 cost as much as a base GT. I'd never option up a V6 that much, but I do love the new 3.7. These things are making excellent power with bolt-ons and tuning. I'd definitely consider a base manual in a few years as a daily commuter.
Another point of interest is that it comes with a bad *** set of Pirellis. I think equivalent tires on the Scionbaru would close the gap considerably, but that's neither here nor there.
I think for the money the Mustang is worth they should have thrown the 370Z in the mix.
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But it could still ultimately be a relatively light/nimble (and now more potent) sports coupe.
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An STI version likely wouldn't be only 2700 pounds though. Turbo, intercooler, brackets/piping, bigger wheels/tires, heavier duty driveline/suspension components, more standard interior/comfort items etc.
But it could still ultimately be a relatively light/nimble (and now more potent) sports coupe.
But it could still ultimately be a relatively light/nimble (and now more potent) sports coupe.
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An STI version likely wouldn't be only 2700 pounds though. Turbo, intercooler, brackets/piping, bigger wheels/tires, heavier duty driveline/suspension components, more standard interior/comfort items etc.
But it could still ultimately be a relatively light/nimble (and now more potent) sports coupe.
But it could still ultimately be a relatively light/nimble (and now more potent) sports coupe.
Subaru/Toyota wants to keep the weight down on these cars. adding all that extra weight to the front of the car (screwing up the weight distribution they tried so damn hard to make perfect) wouldn't make any sense.
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Subaru has flat out said no to turbocharging it. that little 2.0 could be punched out to a 2.5 or so and still make that 300bhp N/A.
Subaru/Toyota wants to keep the weight down on these cars. adding all that extra weight to the front of the car (screwing up the weight distribution they tried so damn hard to make perfect) wouldn't make any sense.
Subaru/Toyota wants to keep the weight down on these cars. adding all that extra weight to the front of the car (screwing up the weight distribution they tried so damn hard to make perfect) wouldn't make any sense.
I don't know if a full 300hp NA is probable or likely, but even just a bump to 250-270hp would really wake up a light car like that.
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