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Old 05-11-2012, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by chaman
I fail to comprehend why they were compared in the first place.
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Perhaps but they are completely different type of cars.
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I'm gonna wait and test drive before forming an opinion. And hopefully there'll be an sti version later on.
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It's not lighting fast but it's still a cool rwd car that can be made fast just wait until they slap a turbo on these twins they will be quick.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
True, probably no direct competitors...but the Hyundai Genesis and the Mazda Miata might come close to being possible competitors for it.

And this might even further reaffirm the potential Miata parallels/comparisons:
http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...+and+Driver%29
That's what I was thinking too.

But I didn't know about this car till today when I saw a trailer of em on the HW. HOT looking car! But when I got back to the shop and looked it up the specs disappointed me big time. No turbo boxer? No AWD? I dunno, I figured that thing would be a menace with AWD and a turbo. Would be able to put the power down and stick like mad.
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I'm confused on how the BRZ lost in every comparison they did and they still said it was the better car lol
Old 05-29-2012, 08:25 PM
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Because numbers aren't everything. Some people here realize that, and it seems like every test done on this car is done by people who get that too. I would like to see what this car is like with some halfway-decent tires on it.
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I'd like to see what it could do with half-way decent power output... and good tires.

Actually, the power is half decent.
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Originally Posted by It'llrun
I'd like to see what it could do with half-way decent power output... and good tires.

Actually, the power is half decent.
It has the weight going for it (for a change considering all the other new cars today), and especially if a STI version does come out...I would be all over that. 300 hp 2700 lbs, yes. Please.
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I was browsing comparison videos on Motor Trend yesterday and noticed they bill this particular Mustang as dirt cheap, but it's a premium model with the performance package that came out to a hair over $30,000, yet they keep throwing around the base price and under $28k bullshit in the videos.

That 3.7 cost as much as a base GT. I'd never option up a V6 that much, but I do love the new 3.7. These things are making excellent power with bolt-ons and tuning. I'd definitely consider a base manual in a few years as a daily commuter.

Another point of interest is that it comes with a bad *** set of Pirellis. I think equivalent tires on the Scionbaru would close the gap considerably, but that's neither here nor there.

I think for the money the Mustang is worth they should have thrown the 370Z in the mix.
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Both cars are for ladies.
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Originally Posted by AznMuscle
especially if a STI version does come out...I would be all over that. 300 hp 2700 lbs, yes. Please.
An STI version likely wouldn't be only 2700 pounds though. Turbo, intercooler, brackets/piping, bigger wheels/tires, heavier duty driveline/suspension components, more standard interior/comfort items etc.
But it could still ultimately be a relatively light/nimble (and now more potent) sports coupe.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
An STI version likely wouldn't be only 2700 pounds though. Turbo, intercooler, brackets/piping, bigger wheels/tires, heavier duty driveline/suspension components, more standard interior/comfort items etc.
But it could still ultimately be a relatively light/nimble (and now more potent) sports coupe.
Eh, you are right, I think the premium BRZ sits at 2740 as it is, so add in all that and weight will go up. Still a baby turbo and the piping wont add TOO much to the egine, who knows if they would go heavier on the suspension. Lets call it sub 3000 lbs then.....that would still be one hell of a fun ride IMO.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
An STI version likely wouldn't be only 2700 pounds though. Turbo, intercooler, brackets/piping, bigger wheels/tires, heavier duty driveline/suspension components, more standard interior/comfort items etc.
But it could still ultimately be a relatively light/nimble (and now more potent) sports coupe.
Subaru has flat out said no to turbocharging it. that little 2.0 could be punched out to a 2.5 or so and still make that 300bhp N/A.

Subaru/Toyota wants to keep the weight down on these cars. adding all that extra weight to the front of the car (screwing up the weight distribution they tried so damn hard to make perfect) wouldn't make any sense.
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Yup
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Originally Posted by CaptainDirtymax
Subaru has flat out said no to turbocharging it. that little 2.0 could be punched out to a 2.5 or so and still make that 300bhp N/A.

Subaru/Toyota wants to keep the weight down on these cars. adding all that extra weight to the front of the car (screwing up the weight distribution they tried so damn hard to make perfect) wouldn't make any sense.
True.
I don't know if a full 300hp NA is probable or likely, but even just a bump to 250-270hp would really wake up a light car like that.
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Originally Posted by LS1LT1
True.
I don't know if a full 300hp NA is probable or likely, but even just a bump to 250-270hp would really wake up a light car like that.
12:1 compression off of a 2.5L flat 4 turning 7500rpm??? they could if they wanted to.
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Just because Subaru won't turbo it doesn't mean the aftermarket isn't going to find a way to get a 2.5 Turbo STi engine in there.



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