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Old 10-13-2014, 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by voodoochikin04
Now if only I could source 1000hp+ internals for the 2 cv's on the stock shaft.... and with an adapter from the 8.8 to the stock driveshaft... winning ticket!
Could you make a longer, more robust rear driveshaft section and just mate it up with the stock front section?
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Originally Posted by voodoochikin04
Now if only I could source 1000hp+ internals for the 2 cv's on the stock shaft.... and with an adapter from the 8.8 to the stock driveshaft... winning ticket!
Use the Porsche 930 CVs. They are used in off road buggies and stuff that are thoroughly abused and have nearly that much power. I wouldn't hesitate to use them. They are very robust. There are a few companies that also improve the CV cage and bearings so that they can handle more power. Google it. They are legit CVs.
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I know.. Ive been a member on many buggy and fab forums for 6+ years.. I recently sold my badass dune buggy. I've tried sourcing even the stock internals for these driveshafts.. to no avail. the 930cvs are 108mm units.. the stock cv's are 100mm units.. also the stock spline shafts use a different number of splines than almost all other cv's...so youre left with replacing the spline shaft on the front half of the stock shaft.. or trying to source/ create a new star for the 930cv (if using that) that has the correct number of teeth.. $$$$... I could build new 2piece driveshafts with type 2 or 930 cv's with race prepped internals that will handle 1000hp, that would mate to the stock 6speed trans and also mate to the stock diff or 8.8 via adapter.. BUT the cost would be upwards of $1500.... or more...
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Don't mean to brag guys but my 1000hp 1 piece has 930s on both ends....
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yes.. but you has asked if I could just take the front half and make a beefier rear section... to do that, would be expensive and the better option would probably be a 1piece like you have lol..
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Originally Posted by voodoochikin04
Now if only I could source 1000hp+ internals for the 2 cv's on the stock shaft.... and with an adapter from the 8.8 to the stock driveshaft... winning ticket!
We have that adapter.....


oh and that two piece shaft is only $999....

http://www.shop.gforce1320.com/product.sc?productId=183
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That's still $1000.... Still ujoints... I said internals for the stock driveshaft.
There's no reason that shaft should cost more than $600.
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Originally Posted by voodoochikin04
There's no reason that shaft should cost more than $600.
I'm sure this was a mistake. You want $345 just to replace the bearing and surround...could you build and entire shaft for $600 because if you can, you should build it.
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$345 is a good deal to make your stock driveshaft 100% usuable again. VS the insane prices on one piece and factory replacements. BTW. Its $385 for the poly. also yes, a two piece u-jointed shaft shouldnt cost more than that. The markup is insane. My opinion is it doesn't make sense to go to ujoints.. I hate them. But that's solely my opinion. 54 has good luck with his shaft which I'm assuming is same or similar to pictures. ? That's fine.. Whatever works for you is my moto. BUT.... Until you've compared a stock shaft with a rigid poly mount.. To a one piece... Don't hate on it.


Also the cost for bearing replacement covers the bearing unit, orings, sealant, towels, cardboard, foam, tape, fuel, and shipping charges.. And the tiny bit that's left over goes towards the 3hours labor it takes to replace the unit... I don't make squat doing this. I do it to help the V owner who doesn't want a possible headache with a one piece or ujointed shaft. AND who wants the smoothness of the stock shaft while having a bit more performance from their components. Anyways. I enjoy doing this stuff

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Originally Posted by voodoochikin04
$345 is a good deal to make your stock driveshaft 100% usuable again. VS the insane prices on one piece and factory replacements. BTW. Its $385 for the poly. also yes, a two piece u-jointed shaft shouldnt cost more than that. The markup is insane. My opinion is it doesn't make sense to go to ujoints.. I hate them. But that's solely my opinion. 54 has good luck with his shaft which I'm assuming is same or similar to pictures. ? That's fine.. Whatever works for you is my moto. BUT.... Until you've compared a stock shaft with a rigid poly mount.. To a one piece... Don't hate on it.
Not hating by any means I've said several times that if your option had been available to me I would have taken it but my shaft was done and I was out of time.

I sincerely thought you made a mistake when you mentioned that you felt building an entire shaft should cost $600. I've never had entire shaft built from scratch so I have no idea what it cost.
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Do you mean $600 in raw materials/labor or enough to make a profit? It doesn't sound like a company would make much of a profit and that's the main thing that matters for them, of course. DSS/G-Force are not quite as benevolent as you.
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I've been friends with a local driveshaft builder for almost 15 years. They do a lot of shafts for the race cars in this area. I've shown my friend the two piece and one piece shafts. He has told me some very intriguing prices. BUT, thats a market I dont have any desire to compete in. I do however wish they did two piece shaft balancing.. :/


I was told $600 for a two piece shaft with u-joints and adapters... So that was with some meat on the bone for them. I was also told $500 for replicate the one piece aluminum Geforce shaft my friend purchase... of which has been returned many times for issues and is being returned for refund now.. car now runs a 30a and is super satisfied..

Edit third times the charm.... ALSO... I'm really excited to get my poly giubo from revshift installed and see if it works in harmony with my poly carrier... If so, its going to be amazing!! sure you dont get the small weight savings...BUT.. the $$ saved. and no speed limit below factory intentions.
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Yeah, seems to be the problem with niche markets like this. They can charge double what it cost to make because we have no other options and there aren't very many of us. Such is life.
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exactly, and im not throwing a fit over it. BUT im also not marking up my services to make my lease payments lol. I dont have too. SO its all understandable. Im not gonna bag on the one or two piece aftermarket shafts, I just know many people have issues. ANYWAYS... Im here to help all V owners and feel ive priced my services correctly and at a level pretty much any V owner can afford. Thats my intention... "affordable performance for any V owner"... SORRY to hijack your thread!!
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Originally Posted by voodoochikin04
I was told $600 for a two piece shaft with u-joints and adapters... So that was with some meat on the bone for them. I was also told $500 for replicate the one piece aluminum Geforce shaft my friend purchase... of which has been returned many times for issues and is being returned for refund now.. car now runs a 30a and is super satisfied..
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Wow....
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elaborate?
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Originally Posted by voodoochikin04
elaborate?
Wouldn't have thought the gforce shaft could've been made that cheap....
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$999 is a great price for a two piece that is rated as high as it is. Smooth as butter at 179mph........
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That's a $1000!.. Idk man. That's a lot of scratch. Car has a 2 piece that is already smooth as butter to whatever speed. Where is the gain? Breaking the stock driveshaft isn't a problem. There's already cheaper solution to getting rid of the rubber components. I don't see the gain of spending that kind of money, for what?
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For a permanent solution that allows running your car in motorsports events safely.


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