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Old 12-09-2013, 09:03 AM
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Is the super victor alot better or it not that much better as far as flow
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They dont make and sell it to waste your money. It has its purpose, not for a daily driver only tho.
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You want to match it to cam and gearing. Probably not a good match to a near stock cam but if you go big with ported head then might be the right choice. Keep in mind a super vic is taller so check hood clearance. You can probably get the same result with a carb spacer on a vic jr. That route gives you a few more tuning options.

Daily driver or not is somewhat irrelevant, just match it to whatever cam you have the ***** to run.
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Originally Posted by Zelly85 box
Is the super victor alot better or it not that much better as far as flow
The most notable thing about the Super Victor is that the runners are larger in cross sectional area and slightly longer (which makes the intake a little over an inch taller).

Zone, the moderator of this section, tested it on his stock displacement 6.0. If memory serves me, he slowed down over a Victor Jr.. However, a few guys on a well known hard core racing site say they have gained notable performance on serious race engines.
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Zone, the moderator of this section, tested it on his stock displacement 6.0. If memory serves me, he slowed down over a Victor Jr.. However, a few guys on a well known hard core racing site say they have gained notable performance on serious race engines.
so u saying victor jr is all I need for my daily driver
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Originally Posted by Zelly85 box
so u saying victor jr is all I need for my daily driver
I am reluctant to summarize or make general statements like that in this case because I have no personal experience with the Super Victor. I would love to try it on my car just for an experiment.

I can give you this generalization that I know to be true. As the cross sectional area of the intake runners increases, it will generally slow down port velocity. So, if your engine is not large enough, and/or run at a high enough RPM to benefit from the increased flow, it could actually lose power with a "larger" intake. Where that line is, I do not know.

Tell us about your set up.
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Bigger is only better, if it fits the circumstance . If your cam , converter, gearing, and a lot of other thing are not designed for the RPM range of the intake, it wont be a good match.
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I mean a mild dd engine isnt what that intake will shine with. You can dd practically any engine if you have the patience and ability to do so. This intake isnt suited for a near stock engine, cam and power wise. It would work, just wouldnt shine like a smaller intake... if you have a rev friendly engine that sucks alot of air then this would suit your needs better than say a stock cam 4.8
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Originally Posted by speedtigger
The most notable thing about the Super Victor is that the runners are larger in cross sectional area and slightly longer (which makes the intake a little over an inch taller).

Zone, the moderator of this section, tested it on his stock displacement 6.0. If memory serves me, he slowed down over a Victor Jr.. However, a few guys on a well known hard core racing site say they have gained notable performance on serious race engines.
I went from a TR6 with Vic jr and 2 inch spacer to the BR7EF plug and super Vic with no spacer and gapped for nitrous and lost a .1. So I cannot say that it was a loss since it was not a identical test, different day with probably different DA and all that.

If you have the room for it and it is for max power, I say use it.
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Vic jr for street, super vic for big race application
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Well, if you have a stroked up 383, 408 ect, I think the super would go without saying if it was a street car.
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I would stick with a jr if its a mild street app. Or super for a bad *** big motor build. The super can pull past 7500 rpms the jr can't on most motors.
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Mine is mostly strip. I could care less of manners on street. I just wonder if i could pick up shifting at 69-7k with a super? I am going to 4.30 gears, and gonna port my exhaust out a little I think. I have been reading up on head work, and looks like I might need to leave the intake side alone till i get more cubes.
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well going to give my 2 cents,,,, what most want to see is more power,, I think it will,,, but what most people is not seeing, if your not going to have enough converter to leave at a higher rpm to get in the range of the intake the power is its not going to help,, but slow u down. I can say this, when my motor was stock with dual plane or the vic jr I had better 60 ft's than I do now with heads and cam,, that's hard to believe but im leaving at same rpm as before,, the heads and cam(well cam is more up in rpm's where the power is now... people lose sight just trying to make more power but not changing other things to go along with the change.... my 2 cents
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Would there be an improvement with a Super Vic over the Jnr on a 235/240 cammed 346 with a 4500 converter?
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I think my 5500 converter will be ok. Kind of think the gears will help it get in power band quicker. Maybe I'm wrong
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stang I think before you said u leave about 2600 I think,,, how much flash u have on converter? if its a 5500 id say its about 3800 or so,,, it could help but its close to that 1000 flash u need for it to work,,,

seg tell more on your car.
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Not really sure on my flash man, but I think it will flash higher than that. But dont hold me to it.
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Originally Posted by speedtigger
i am reluctant to summarize or make general statements like that in this case because i have no personal experience with the super victor. I would love to try it on my car just for an experiment.

I can give you this generalization that i know to be true. As the cross sectional area of the intake runners increases, it will generally slow down port velocity. So, if your engine is not large enough, and/or run at a high enough rpm to benefit from the increased flow, it could actually lose power with a "larger" intake. Where that line is, i do not know.

Tell us about your set up.
i have a 85 caprice 4 door with a lq9 with ls6 243 heads that im getting a valve job and bowl blend with a custom cam from martin at tick the car currently have 4.56 gears in the rear
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Originally Posted by Zelly85 box
i have a 85 caprice 4 door with a lq9 with ls6 243 heads that im getting a valve job and bowl blend with a custom cam from martin at tick the car currently have 4.56 gears in the rear
4.56 gear sounds like serious business. What torque converter stall?


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