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Old 05-18-2014, 10:03 AM
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In looking at the design of the new LT engine in the Vette and the realization that all of the V8s will soon be direct injection, does this mark the end of carbureted conversion onto the latest late model engines?

Since the heads are no longer being designed with wet flow as a consideration, I wonder if the new LT series engines would be problematic in a wet flow scenario.
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All I can say is I cannot wait to find out. I'm sure they will make a intake and a plug set to block off injector holes eventually.
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I am not so sure of that. It may be a bridge too far.
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Nah, I doubt it. The aftermarket will answer the needs of us. Lol

Won't happen over night.
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Once folks crack into DI systems I'm not sure you'd ever want to go carbed on one. They are pretty amazing systems
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At what cost? Nothing wrong with DI, but guess what? Not many a person tune the LS1s and others much less the newer stuff.
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Carb intake will come. Not everybody into hauling car for a tune.
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Yup, will be interesting. I still have not heard of the limits of the direct port Gen v injectors.
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I think Texas Speed posted some more revealing pics of the heads they received.
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Yeah no thanks, for the world of street car drag racing I think we still have a fair way to go until we really see the full potential of the LS platform. This thing looks more like a Jap engine, won't expect a carb race application to be happening any time soon. Personally I wouldn't be interested in this thing anyway.
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Looks like it needs the injector holes plugged (as mentioned already), a vvt and DOD delete. Probably the injector boss smoothed after blocking it off.
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Ah the possibilities. But, if the new truck LT platform has heads that flow like the Vette.....bet your hiney that we will be calling to the aftermarket for our junkyard builds in the near future!!!
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My Mazda 3 DD has direct injection and pulls down 38 mpg to and from work. 13:1 compression on regular gas. Like said above there is so much flexibility with direct injection that once mass production brings the cost down it will be tough to yank it off.

I like my carb but damn.
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
Ah the possibilities. But, if the new truck LT platform has heads that flow like the Vette.....bet your hiney that we will be calling to the aftermarket for our junkyard builds in the near future!!!
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
Ah the possibilities. But, if the new truck LT platform has heads that flow like the Vette.....bet your hiney that we will be calling to the aftermarket for our junkyard builds in the near future!!!
Not if the wet flow is a problem.
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I highly doubt it will be any issue. All these heads we use won't flow wet for carbed, they were made for a injector, yet here we are. Look at the new 6.2 ford motor, they have a carbed intake for that! Lol
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I wish they would come up with new names for these new engines. Recycling names is confusing for a lot of people.
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...xas-speed.html

Looks like the tapping and installing a plug from the chamber side... drive side up... smooth side in chamber would work. I would find it hard to believe GM would desert the carb'd street rod crowd as they have always catered to them with over the counter adaptation parts.
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