not happy with 1/4 times
12-24-2008, 09:22 PM
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not happy with 1/4 times i took my fox (91 gt) out tonight and did a few blasts, and it was a lot slower than i was hoping.
i put 3300 pounds (car plus me 280+my buddie 255) and the meter only said it put down 239 horsepower.
i couldnt get it to hook (my best 60' was 2.207) even with the m/t drag radials, plus it was about 25-30 degrees out.
but this is what it read.
60' 2.207
330' 5.818
1/8 8.74 @86.26
1000' 11.255
1/4 13.389 @105.63
0-60 4.996
i was wondering if this is really as bad as i think?
my buddie who was with me said the track and the street are much more different, and that at the track it would hook and be much faster. i mean yeah it spun all through first but still it should have wnet faster , no?
on a side note, one pass it hooked a little bit and made a 1.88 60 foot but the g-tech stopped logging for some reason and i shut that run down at about 120 so i have no idea what it would have went on that pass.
i also found out my rotors are warped, it shook real bad trying to slow from a buck twenty (i didnt know because before that i had never had it over 55 ish.
i put 3300 pounds (car plus me 280+my buddie 255) and the meter only said it put down 239 horsepower.
i couldnt get it to hook (my best 60' was 2.207) even with the m/t drag radials, plus it was about 25-30 degrees out.
but this is what it read.
60' 2.207
330' 5.818
1/8 8.74 @86.26
1000' 11.255
1/4 13.389 @105.63
0-60 4.996
i was wondering if this is really as bad as i think?
my buddie who was with me said the track and the street are much more different, and that at the track it would hook and be much faster. i mean yeah it spun all through first but still it should have wnet faster , no?
on a side note, one pass it hooked a little bit and made a 1.88 60 foot but the g-tech stopped logging for some reason and i shut that run down at about 120 so i have no idea what it would have went on that pass.
i also found out my rotors are warped, it shook real bad trying to slow from a buck twenty (i didnt know because before that i had never had it over 55 ish.
12-24-2008, 09:35 PM
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supoosedly the motor has ported heads and a cam. and the regular track is closed so i had to go to backroad dragway, the track inbetween east st loius and washington park. i like going there cuz its pretty easy to pass tech.
but i guess my real question is do those numbers seem embarissing or would it do better at the "NORMAL" track?
p.s. and obviously its an ls1
but i guess my real question is do those numbers seem embarissing or would it do better at the "NORMAL" track?
p.s. and obviously its an ls1
12-25-2008, 11:03 AM
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Have you had the car tuned yet? I wouldnt be to upset about shake down passes. It takes alot of time to get used to a car. I never cared for the track much but went once for ***** and giggles a while back when I had a supercharged 302 I put down 500whp and only trapped 112 at first. Get your heavy friends out of the car too!
12-25-2008, 11:10 AM
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I've tested a couple cars with a cheepo g-tech i had. They were within about .2 of what the cars actually ran but the MPH was high on the g-tech. Gtech mesures (guesses) the mph at the end of the run where as at the track it averages your speed over the last like 100 feet or something.
12-25-2008, 11:42 AM
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I highly doubt your weight is correct with you and your buddy in the car. I mean that is 530+ right there. Is your car a notch or a GT hatch? It would have to be gutted down to nothing for sub 2800 lbs. My guess is you are closer to 3800 lbs wet with you and your passenger. That will affect your mph big time. The 2.2 60 ft. probably won't dip much below 1.9-1.8 on the street in those temps, but on the track is totally different. My guess is low to mid 12's with a decent 60 ft. with just you in the car, at around 110-113 mph or so.
12-25-2008, 12:16 PM
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its a gt. i dont really know the weight for sure. but i need my friend to hit the buttons on the g-tech (i dont know how to work it cuz its his).
the front seats are gone it just has one race seat for the driver but the cage adds some weight back in i guess and the back seat is thier too. and from i have read on here the ls1 doesnt really weigh any less than the 302 cuz those 302 blocks were only lioke 90 pounds or something. and that if you had a six speed it was actually heavier (mines a auto).
and know i havent tuned the motor yet(after the 15th of jan i will have the money for hp tuners) i was told it was tuned but it dies at low speed liek when you come to a stop. the guysover in the tuneing section helped me figure that i need a tune.
i guess i wont know much till i tune it and take it to a "NORMAL" track.
thanks guys for the input im jumping in the hot tub for now.
the front seats are gone it just has one race seat for the driver but the cage adds some weight back in i guess and the back seat is thier too. and from i have read on here the ls1 doesnt really weigh any less than the 302 cuz those 302 blocks were only lioke 90 pounds or something. and that if you had a six speed it was actually heavier (mines a auto).
and know i havent tuned the motor yet(after the 15th of jan i will have the money for hp tuners) i was told it was tuned but it dies at low speed liek when you come to a stop. the guysover in the tuneing section helped me figure that i need a tune.
i guess i wont know much till i tune it and take it to a "NORMAL" track.
thanks guys for the input im jumping in the hot tub for now.
12-25-2008, 01:10 PM
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I think your weight is off. My 03 mach 1, full interior with me in it (180lbs) was 3550 with a HUGE heavy 4.6 32v motor. Your fox doesn't weigh that much. Get your car to a track- I pulled 13.2 @ 106 on Nitto DRs with 270whp. I know you have way more than that.
12-28-2008, 09:04 AM
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DOn't ever beleive HP figures from anyone unless they have actual paperwork with the engine or you know the car. To make those figues at the rear wheels it was have to have a huge cam and it would sound like it. How's it sound??
As far as your time. IF the G tech was even close, get a good launch and eject the passenger and you will be in the high 12s.
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As far as your time. IF the G tech was even close, get a good launch and eject the passenger and you will be in the high 12s.
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12-28-2008, 09:34 AM
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At the track my 00 Z/28 M6 stock ran a 13.43 at 108mph and on a G-tech Pro SS for some reason I could not get any better then a 14.0, I was trying to run the car and the g-tech at the same time so that might of had something to do with the time results
12-29-2008, 08:32 AM
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DOn't ever beleive HP figures from anyone unless they have actual paperwork with the engine or you know the car. To make those figues at the rear wheels it was have to have a huge cam and it would sound like it. How's it sound??
As far as your time. IF the G tech was even close, get a good launch and eject the passenger and you will be in the high 12s.
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As far as your time. IF the G tech was even close, get a good launch and eject the passenger and you will be in the high 12s.
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it does idle like its pissed off. and one of my other friends i guess was their when it was dynoed, but i was told they only tuned it three times. first tune it wouldnt start, second it ran like crap and the third it made a good pull. but i have learned that that would mean that it is only tuned for wide open throttle. but that should nt make much diff ex for drivability i thouhgt.
on the first when i get paid im ordering hp tuners.
and i would have ejected tha pass if i new how to work the g-tech.
also i left it in drive and it shifted @6,000 rpm. im goijng to go to the engine section and see if these motors can handle any more rpm.
12-29-2008, 07:41 PM
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12-29-2008, 09:37 PM
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It was shifting at 6k?? Well if it has a big cam like you think, that motor should be peaking any where from mid-upper 6. Definately get a dyno tune to see where the power is being made and have the car running a lot better. Oh and don't get caught up on G-tech numbers so much, but they are a good way to measure a difference in modifications. Let us know how everything goes 