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Old 01-13-2008, 03:20 AM
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i like my car to appear stock and im debating weather or not to widen my 16's
m/t just started a new tires thats a 315/45/16 which will fit a salad shooter if i make it an 11...right now im using 255/50/16

so ill go from a 9.6 tread width to a 11.2 which is a nice gain...my question is the 255 say they have special sidewalls for quicker launches...the 315 dont...are they harder to hook on or what? im thinking ill have a stock set 16x8 all 4 corners for the street and a set of 16x11 and 16x4 for the track

ive been having wheel having wheel hop problems i hope my 9 inch will fix
my suspension now consists of stock shocks/springs all around
adjustable chromoly lca
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a adjustable lakewood phb aluminum
Old 01-13-2008, 07:30 AM
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I highly doubt the sidewall in a 255 is any different than the side wall in any of their other drag radial sizes.

You need a torque arm to fix that wheel hop, a rear end by itself wont fix it.

Other than the wheel hop, is there any real reason you need that large of a tire?
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315's will slow your car down at the track ... adding sustantial rotating mass. I went from 17" 275's to a 315 width ... lost 3 mph, so, I am now back to 275 width tires. Widening 16's won't put extra meat on 'em, but, you'll be adding several lbs of rotational mass out back. With MT DR's, don't think you'll need a wider tire for traction and 315's will blow your cover for sure if you like a fairly stock appearance.

As for the wheel hop, I added the older style HD Bilsteins ... made the ride pretty stiff, but hey, I've never had wheel hop since ... -2 is normally a little steep for your TA for daily driving. If you're not getting vibration and too much road noise, your 9" certainly will handle it ... just my .02 cents ... wouldn't go with that wide a tire ... not necessary ... people are cutting waaaay low 60' times way over our power levels on 255's ... and some on 16" wheels (though not common).
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you have some good bolt on pieces in your suspension from the sounds of it, just go the rest fo the way with it and you will be fine on the 255's for a very long time.
get the battery relocated into the spare tire well, switch to V6 springs, and either permanently drop or get some quick release endlinks for the front sway bar.

it is all little stuff and will cost less in total than the wheel widening to do right. from the ouside you will look dead stock and still be on the small tire
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stick with the 255's
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Yeah , as Top Fuel says ... you can stick 255 MT's all day long at the track ... just get yourselt some 17" SS wheels and some 275 Nitto or BFG DR's for the street/daily driving. If you have the money to widen 16's, you should be able to swing a set of 17" SS wheels ... that is IF you like them. Throw the takeoffs on there when you go to the track.
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thing is street is kinda hard to hook on them now (ive got 3600 yank 3.41 in a 10 bolt and motores cam only i leave on a 125 shot and cant hook up) i used to hit the spray like j10 feet out with a window and i have 3.73 and i cut 1.50 60' now i can get any better than 1.58 because of this hop/chatter!)

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i have a chromoly adjustable tq arm and i still wheel hop at the track

only reason im considering is because my cars light and im hitting the tires pretty hard now....guess ill wait to see what it does with the rear at the track first...

o yeah i have no front swaybar...and cars light in the 31xx range im guessing...ive got a pc680 up front 2 10 pound bottles over the rear tires
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I'd go to 15" rims and you'll have way more options for tire sizes and types.

If you want to run a drag radial maybe consider a 15x10 rim and a 325 50 15, it'll fit with minimal work and work a lot better in the street.

A lot of people worry about going faster at the track, but personally if you drive your car on the street a lot, I think it is better to have something you hook on the street and loose a 0.10 at the track, it is kind of silly having a car that just spins the tires unless you take it to a drag strip, maybe not for a drag only car but for a street strip car, I'd rather have the car work 24/7 on the street or at the track.
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ive got 15x8 im trying to trade or find some 15x10 that will be for the street/track...but id like something that i can hook almost as well with for also husteling on the track/street (and i need it to be my stock wheels so ill have a set of draglites i can run and haul *** with at the track and soemthing i can look stock and still be almost as fast maybe give up a tenth or so....
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There is alot more than tires involved in making a car hook,having the right parts helps,but the adjustments made the suspension and having the parts working together is more important than anything.You need to plant the tire for it to work.
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Originally Posted by daniel6718
ive got 15x8 im trying to trade or find some 15x10 that will be for the street/track...but id like something that i can hook almost as well with for also husteling on the track/street (and i need it to be my stock wheels so ill have a set of draglites i can run and haul *** with at the track and soemthing i can look stock and still be almost as fast maybe give up a tenth or so....
255's will hook on the street, you just have to know how to set it up like Shawn is saying
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i know i hook well now but id like to hit a small 75 shot outa the whole on the street and hook it...ive seen guys have the wheels up 20 inches on the street....


i guess if i got adjustable shocks and had the backs on really firm and fronts very loose i could hook well on the street?

am i right? id just have to kinda max out the suspension for maximum traction, then be a little more conservative at the track IF it wheelies

i hate to pay 1400 bux for shocks/springs for some afcos but i wont put any cheap stuff on there and have to do it again later...but thats the only thing i really have left to do suspension wise...
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On real hot days here in FL, my MT DR's hook really good on the street ... been through 5 pairs of them out back now in 255, 275, and 315 widths. When it's cooler weather, I haven't been able to hook very well.

After nearly wrecking my car for a second time in the rain at 30-35 mph, I'll never run MT DR's on the street ... plus the fact they never lasted be over 2000 miles and are expensive when you have to change them out that often.

Maybe it's just my car ... even running the MT DR's @ 20-22 lbs on the street, the center crown on my rears always wears down and leaves a lot of tread still on the outer edges ... a lot of others I have seen on here don't have that problem.

The 15's people above recommend do sound like your best option. If you have the money for some D10's or a lightweight drag wheel, you'd see some nice gains. It sure would be a pain to change 'em out though every time you go to the track.
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You need rear shocks.


IMO if you want to get tires, buy a 15 inch draglite or something like it with a 275/50 or 275/60 drag radial or ET street.

Rear shocks and/or an airbag in the RR spring with fix the wheel hop.

Is you front swaybar out?

Is your rear swaybar in?

The ONLY time I have seen a car pick up the front tires 20 inches on the street is in a place where we have been racing for a LONG time with LOTS of rubber and VHT down.

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I thought about getting my 16x8's widened too, but the larger 16" sizes M/T makes aren't the same sidewall (probably stiffer). I'm running 255/50/16's with 1.52-1.53 60' times. I'm shooting for 1.46-1.47's this year with a little more gear and BMR rod-ended lca's/phb, and a BMR drag sway bar. I would stick with the 255's if I were you, spend some $$ on your suspension instead.
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ive got 15 inch draglites now and i think im goana get the 275/50 since its a 26 and matches my gears better and is better for 1/8 mile racing we do in tx...and its wider then the 275/60
no front swaybar...rear stocker is there...airbag i thought was a bandaid for haveing a stock swaybar or a not so good one...and yes its on a prepped street but still i have good traction with 3.42 since they are so long...but when i swap gears its not goana hook that well anymore at least on the street




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