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Old 06-23-2015, 09:42 AM
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I have about 25 dollars Into it with the heatsink and grease
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I have about 25 dollars Into it with the heatsink and grease
I am just curious to know how these coolant can controllers are different from a regular SSR, if at all....Anyone have any thoughts?

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Dragging this back from the grave for updates.
Would be interesting to see how well the SSR is holding up in regular use.

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Old 09-22-2016, 07:17 AM
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I am wondering how well the pump is holding up. I've been reading a lot about this stuff and it seems that brushed electric motors don't really like running at a reduced voltage. However, brushless motors seem to be the way to go.

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Originally Posted by Project GatTagO
I am wondering how well the pump is holding up. I've been reading a lot about this stuff and it seems that brushed electric motors don't really like running at a reduced voltage. However, brushless motors seem to be the way to go.

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I was under the impression PWM controlled SSR relays don’t use lower voltage. They pulse a steady bat voltage to vary the speed. This shouldn’t harm typical brush style motor. They are used very commonly these days to control fan speeds in most cars, which are all brushed electric motors.

The solenoids themselves can get very hot though depending on the freq you run them at and will have a short lifespan without a good heat sink.
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I ran it for a year like that no problem with pump or SSR. I needed more fuel so I run an 044 full time now and stage the big pump on and off based on load.
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Originally Posted by Forcefed86
I was under the impression PWM controlled SSR relays don’t use lower voltage. They pulse a steady bat voltage to vary the speed. This shouldn’t harm typical brush style motor. They are used very commonly these days to control fan speeds in most cars, which are all brushed electric motors.

The solenoids themselves can get very hot though depending on the freq you run them at and will have a short lifespan without a good heat sink.
Yup. PWM'ing or pulsing a motor like that is the correct and safe way to vary speed and will do the motor no harm at all. You're just switching it off and on very fast. Not reducing the voltage as such.
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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
I ran it for a year like that no problem with pump or SSR. .......
That's encouraging. I may have to give it a shot.

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Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Yup. PWM'ing or pulsing a motor like that is the correct and safe way to vary speed and will do the motor no harm at all. You're just switching it off and on very fast. Not reducing the voltage as such.
You will see reduced voltage if you have a meter hooked up at the pump
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For anyone that wants to know more, here is a link that is interesting....start at post #54...

http://forums.holley.com/showthread....-PWM-Fan/page6

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Originally Posted by rotary1307cc
You will see reduced voltage if you have a meter hooked up at the pump
Because neither the meter or your eyes can see fast enough for a true picture. Put an oscilloscope on it

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I know that, I said you will see a voltage drop on a meter
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check out a grand caravan van controller as well.

It's also the correct frequency to work if you want to run PWM on the fan output on gm computers.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/conversio...connector.html



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