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Old 02-15-2007, 01:05 PM
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Okay i was having a few probs with IATs with the 408 and 3.4 pulley and I was at my buddies shop and he happened to have a brand new just in Garrett intercooler core good for upwards of 800rwhp. The idea flashed and thats all it took. We spent alot of time on valentines both getting in trouble for working on it till 8pm but after all was said and done it was in, all looking great!! I got to grind down the welds a bit and then either polish it or chrome it. The kit has the garrett core, 3in mandrel bent aluminum piping, a very nice Tial race waste gate, and 8 ply silicone connectors. This kit involved no cutting of the front, is simple to remove and install and works very well my IATs went down over 50 degrees over the last time I scanned the car in full boost. Sorry for the crappy pics camera phone is all I got
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Looks good! That intake tube and BOV placement looks very familiar
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Originally Posted by Country Boy
Looks good! That intake tube and BOV placement looks very familiar
Who has one like it?? I was only going with the best assessibilty and that Tial looks so nice had to have it in sight Hey if you've run one like it what spring should i run it has a 10 pound in it right now just curious
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is the IC angled down to a certain degree, or it it parallel to the ground?
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Originally Posted by 6techniques
is the IC angled down to a certain degree, or it it parallel to the ground?
It is at a 45 degree angle using the low pressure drop zone in front of the radiator to pull air through the intercooler and seems to be working extremely well also has the lower air deflector helping as well.
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cool, I couldnt really tell from the angle you took the pic. What kind of hp is that ic rated at?
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Originally Posted by 6techniques
cool, I couldnt really tell from the angle you took the pic. What kind of hp is that ic rated at?
Its rated at 800 rwhp suppose to be the best core you can buy period at least thats what I have been reading on the net that the garrett core is extremely efficent but doesnt flow the most but cools the best .
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Sweet as hell haha they look like twiners haha and it looks great chromed!!! what spring were you running on it by the way???
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I think it was the 9lb. Dont remember. Its polished stainless
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Thats a good place to put the IC, the front of these cars where most put them (including me) is a pretty dead zone air flow wise. With the air dam and the IC at that angle you will have a lot more air moving through there then at the front. My only concern was losing some airflow through the radiator but that looks pretty good, less bends in the pipe the better..
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Originally Posted by kp
Thats a good place to put the IC, the front of these cars where most put them (including me) is a pretty dead zone air flow wise. With the air dam and the IC at that angle you will have a lot more air moving through there then at the front. My only concern was losing some airflow through the radiator but that looks pretty good, less bends in the pipe the better..
Thanks boss I started by thinking of putting it in front but here in good ole utah the front lisense plate law keeps biting me in the butt so i was trying to figure a way to do it, get good airflow, and keep the front plate. So far I havent noticed any increase in car temps so I figure with as good as the air flows through the core and being that it is coming from a low pressure zone it acually pulls it through instead of relying on moving to get adaquate airflow. Time will tell and I figure ill conduct the experiment so far so good.
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since it lowered ur IAT 50degress, what did u have setup before that???
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Originally Posted by 2002/Black/SS
since it lowered ur IAT 50degress, what did u have setup before that???
I was using the twin procharger coolers the 3.5inchers
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Looks great.
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One thing please see if you can figure this out I have alot less bends in it now, larger pipe 3 in versus 2.5 in and a much larger core and better flowing but I am only seeing 9.5 psi versus 10.5 to 11 psi that i had with the old set up. Any ideas I checked my connections and they look good
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Boost is a measure of restriction. Higher flowing heads = less boost ,but more power at less boost. Same principal with IC pipes. Biger pipe flows better.

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What he is saying below is very true also.

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I am only seeing 9.5 psi versus 10.5 to 11 psi that i had with the old set up. Any ideas I checked my connections and they look good
That is a pretty restrictive core with only 9 long hot air channels. You are losing the pressure due to the high restriction.

My core is similar in size to yours (6"H x 23"W x 4.5"Deep) , but with the hot air channels oriented vertically I have much lower restriction with 36 hot air channels:



If we assume you have a 3" deep FMIC, then your internal flow area (the total size of all the "windows" the hot air sees when it enters the intercooler), we get:

3" Deep
times
9 channels
times
5/16" (the common internal width of that type IC)
equals only
8.34 square inches of internal flow area

versus mine (measured like yours with 3" depth instead of the real 4.5"):

3" Deep
times
36 channels
times
5/16"
equals
33.75 square inches

Four times the flow area in a similar rectangular shape.

Mine has a rated pressure drop of 1psi at 1089cfm. In real life I see less than .4psi difference between input pressure and output pressure, but I'm only putting a max of about 800cfm through there right now (501 rwhp with 7.2# of boost, 383 Vortech S-trim).

What are your actual core dimensions?
I estimated:
Length Across - I figured 22"
Depth - went with 3"
Height - looks about 8"

Garret rates their 703518-6019 core at 600hp:
Length: 24"
Depth: 3"
Height: 7.9"

I think you traded a cleaner install for a more restrictive IC. I also have a problem with anyone telling you the core is rated for 800HP. By its looks and layout I would have said 400-500.

Install looks nice and clean, though.

Jim

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+1, you should have picked up 1-2psi over the twins with a FMIC and less bends in the pipe.
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Okay i went out and measured and it looks like it is the 24"x8"x3.5" also was talking to a few guys and since i do know that it has alot more tubulators inside it will cause extra drag and I have alot of guys saying the bigger pipe will cause boost to fall a bit. i dont know got to get my fuel pumps in and then go retune and get it all situated. Anything you guys can see that I might do that will make it better please feel free to let me know thanks alot.



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