General Maintenance & Repairs Leaks | Squeaks | Clunks | Rattles | Grinds

Can't find misfire, details inside

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-13-2007, 01:13 PM
  #1  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (26)
 
oneBADDz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Western Section
Posts: 571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Can't find misfire, details inside

Bone stock 99 WS6. Car threw P0307 after a bad shift and over-rev. Prior to knowing it had been overrevved here's what was done

Changed the plug - it was white like the car is lean
Changed the wire -still not fixed
Swapped the coil to another cylinder - code stayed on #7

Found out the car had fallen victim the the infamous 2-3-2 shift at the track and the misfire showed up right after the run.

Pulled out the pushrods, they aren't bent. Swapped them for two other pushrods I had available anyways. Not fixed.

Decided to check out the injectors and this is where it gets wierd. Engine running, being held at 2000 rpm, I pulled the plug off of the #1 injector to see how much it stumbled, put it back on and pulled the plug off of the #7 injector and nothing happened, no stumble like it did with the one that was known to be functioning. So, swapped the two injectors and the code still stayed on #7. Rechecked the stumble by pulling plugs off of injectors and the same thing happened even after swapping the injectors, #7 was still the problem.

What's next?

Last edited by oneBADDz; 05-13-2007 at 01:20 PM.
Old 05-13-2007, 01:50 PM
  #2  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (22)
 
keliente's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mooresville, NC
Posts: 2,928
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Could the lifter(s)/valves on #7 perhaps have thrown in the towel to the dreaded misshift? Over-rev/bad shift just screams valvetrain issue, especially since it came on right after.
Old 05-13-2007, 02:17 PM
  #3  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (26)
 
oneBADDz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Western Section
Posts: 571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by keliente
Could the lifter(s)/valves on #7 perhaps have thrown in the towel to the dreaded misshift? Over-rev/bad shift just screams valvetrain issue, especially since it came on right after.
That's why I jumped right to the pushrods once I found out what had happened. From time to time you can hear a little tap, but not loud and not but maybe 5% of the time. What about the injector thing though? Why does unplugging the #7 injector not affect idle or running quality, and after we switched injectors from another cylinder it remained the same. This is a problem that have no experience or knowledge on diagnosing and I'm just lost. What more can I do to check stuff out? I told him to get a compression/leakdown test since I don't have the stuff for it. Worries of a bent valve has crossed my mind, but I don't know what steps to take next.

Last edited by oneBADDz; 05-13-2007 at 02:36 PM.
Old 05-13-2007, 02:28 PM
  #4  
TECH Apprentice
iTrader: (6)
 
Da Swami's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: UCLA
Posts: 330
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

If the intake valve/lifter on #7 was messed up the injector wouldn't matter, functioning or not.

It would basically be spraying into a wall.
Old 05-13-2007, 02:39 PM
  #5  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (26)
 
oneBADDz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Western Section
Posts: 571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

So are we looking at a comp/leakdown test and then using the results to decide if we're pulling the head on that side? If it passes we'll look into something obscure like the cat or O2 sensor?
Old 05-14-2007, 04:50 PM
  #6  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (22)
 
keliente's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Mooresville, NC
Posts: 2,928
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by oneBADDz
So are we looking at a comp/leakdown test and then using the results to decide if we're pulling the head on that side? If it passes we'll look into something obscure like the cat or O2 sensor?
I'm not sure a cat or 02 sensor would cause a specific misfire to one cylinder...then tend to screw things up all over or on one bank. I am really thinking that since it's not the pushrods, its got to be a valve or lifter.
Old 05-14-2007, 05:28 PM
  #7  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (26)
 
oneBADDz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Western Section
Posts: 571
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

That's why I said obscure, lol. The comp test goes down tomorrow, I'll update when we know something. For once the LS1 pushrods were just a little too strong. . .




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:23 PM.