8urford2002

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I have a 2002 Camaro Z-28 and I want to get long tubes. It is lowered 2". What is my best bet for groung clearance. Is there some brands that have better clearence better then others?

suzookiegsxr

Pacesetters and flowtech are the tightest fitting in my opinion.
I run slp longtubes just bc I like the sparks.

8urford2002

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Thank you. Someone told me pacesetters before but I just want to be shure and hear some more opinions.

firehawk#682

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All of them are bout the same. Except slp they aren't very good for ground clearance. Im happy with my pacesetter they have good ground cleanance. The y-pipe are more of ground cleanance issuse to me. Here is a pic of the headers and then the y-pipe also. Both fit very good and no scraping or banging at all.

s346k

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my question is...why do you want headers? i don't think you really *need them until you cam it. same gains to be had with n2o using manifolds or headers. a solid stock manifold car will run equal to or within 1 mph of a header car.

i'd just wait until you cam it. otherwise you are opening yourself up to many problems.

8urford2002

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Thanks for the pictures man.

I am planning on putting a cam in it. But i dont have a lot of money so I have to do things one at a time. I would rather buy headers now instead of buy headers and a cam in the future. Get my drift.

s346k

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yeah, i hear ya. my buddy had a 2" drop on his 99 z28 and pacesetter long tubes. the headers cleared everything fine, but the y-pipe drug everywhere he went. i'm guessing that will be your biggest problem.

shdybrady1988

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just get a shop to make you duals and they will tuck everything underneath there

kdavis

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or try and get an oval y pipe. they clear a little better.

suzookiegsxr

Wrong.

All of it.

Headers are a good start. More air in, more air out, thats the plan. Especially if your spraying.

NHRAMAN

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ABSOLUTELY CORRECT----he is misinformed.

Orange 02 WS6

x2 my thoughts exactly.

firehawk#682

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X4 when i put my headers, ORY, and ls6 intake i gained 3 tenths at the 8th mile. The better you get the air in and out the engine the more power you are going to make. Headers are a very good mod!

HMERacing

I have the SLP originals and They might as well have welded skid plates onto them
The new design is a well planned out part. Check them out!!! Ceramic coated stainless inside and out!!! They come as a complete system too. Only downside is they dont use the newest collector designs.

Tom@ARH

Our system tucks up very tightly there some pics floating around here showing the clearance. If you seach I'm sure you'll find them. are you going to run cats or ORY?

Pushead

Here is my recent install of ARH with my Intrax 2" lowering springs.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/993528-american-racing-headers-intrax-2-lowering-springs-lots-pix.html

To date, I haven't scraped anywhere, including places I used to scrape with the stock Y.

Tom@ARH

Thanks those are the pics I was talking about with the soda can

SSmoken

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I have sprotline springs. my qtps dont scrape anywhere.

s346k

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you mean i am misexperienced? because the information is coming from drag strips and experience from a few years worth of racing.

what kind of mileage did/do your untuned header cars get? what do they weigh and trap? headers aren't worth the effort IMHO.

you'll be over $500 with headers and a tune to trap what a manifold car would with an ory. you'll have less clearance than manifolds for everything engine/exhaust related and not have an excuse when a damn near stock ls1fbod is door to door with ya.

i think headers are great, but they have their time and place. a bolt-on car with no other mods is not the place.

edit: fyi - you will pick up the same on a 100 shot, headers or not.

DaveX

Where can you find an oval Y for the pacesetters? I looked for this before but no luck. Can't find an oval "kit" to make my own either.