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Im looking to buy a 98 TA ram air that has high miles on it. It drove fine but when I popped the hood it didnt have a lid on it. I was just wonder how bad is it to drive around without a lid?

speedy_g

Without a lid? I wouldn't let the car sit without a lid! The motor with all that inlet of air pulling in all that dirt and god knows what else...ouch man!I would think if you plan on buying anything that costs money, and I'm sure it will or did you would at lest pop the hood to look under it. Have you ever owned a car?

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I havent bought the car, i just test drove it. When we got back i looked under the hood. There was no lid that covers the intake. I could see the K&N drop-in sitting there. I know its not good to drive without one but i'm asking should i even bother with a car that may have been driven without one?

Fulton 1

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Are you sure it wasn't just a clear lid? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Seriously, though that's crazy to drive around and not have a lid at all. Unless he's got the pantyhose mod over the inlet or something, its pulling unfiltered air which is not a good idea. I'd have some serious doubts about this car and/or its owner.

deviate42

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well if he had the K&N in there at least he had something. How dirty was the drop in filter??

unit213

<small>[ April 08, 2003, 04:59 AM: Message edited by: unit213 ]</small>

Camaro SS 2002

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by unit213:
<strong>I'd run from that car. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">WERD!!!

Chris99WS6PWTMET

What type of hood did it have? Some of the aftermarket hoods use a different style of induction setup. The air comes into the face of the filter, then into the motor. It is TOTALLY different than a stock LS1 setup. Check that out before you freak out.

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The filter didnt look bad, I just got a weird vibe when i didnt see one there. Heres a picture of the car
http://community.webshots.com/script...ecurity=zXIIxN

<small>[ April 06, 2003, 08:15 PM: Message edited by: 642642 ]</small>

deviate42

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have you talked to the owner? ask him why he doesnt have a lid on, and what happened to the lid. How long has it been off? is the car running different?etc

shadow99

HEY SUNCOAST AFTER MARKET WS6 AND RAPTOR HOODS DO OT COME WITH LIDS, THE AIR BOX SEALS TO THE HOOD VIA RUBBER OR FOAM SEAL. CB <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" />

deviate42

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by shadow99:
<strong> HEY SUNCOAST AFTER MARKET WS6 AND RAPTOR HOODS DO OT COME WITH LIDS, THE AIR BOX SEALS TO THE HOOD VIA RUBBER OR FOAM SEAL. CB <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">yes but they dont run straight TB's <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
tHe air is filtered first

Chris99WS6PWTMET

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Bounce?:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by shadow99:
<strong> HEY SUNCOAST AFTER MARKET WS6 AND RAPTOR HOODS DO OT COME WITH LIDS, THE AIR BOX SEALS TO THE HOOD VIA RUBBER OR FOAM SEAL. CB <img border="0" alt="[driving]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_driving3.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">yes but they dont run straight TB's <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
tHe air is filtered first </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Read my first post. This is most likely an aftermarket set up and possibly a case of someone not knowing exactly what they're looking at. Think about it.

Hey 642642 - Were you looking at the K&N filter and right above it looking into the MAF leading to the TB? If not then it is an aftermarket set up.

BTW - I couldnt get the pic link to work.

unit213

<small>[ April 08, 2003, 04:59 AM: Message edited by: unit213 ]</small>

Chris99WS6PWTMET

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by unit213:
<strong> The only acceptable air induction for our LS1's is either a lid, volant, or the FIPK really. I haven't seen anything else for a N/A application. Like I said before, if air entering the motor isn't filtered...RUN!! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So you're saying that the set up on some aftermarket hoods is not acceptable? Think again.

Go to the fourth pic down on this link:

www.suncoastcreations.com/hoods_auto_98-up_firebrid_ws6_hood.htm

This is most likely what this kid was looking at. Is it making sense yet? With almost 2000 posts, I would think you would be more up on this stuff. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

<small>[ April 07, 2003, 07:25 PM: Message edited by: Chris99WS6PWTMET ]</small>

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Try this link http://community.webshots.com/photo/...68814252zXIIxN

Chris99WS6PWTMET

That was a good link. That is an aftermarket hood. Now go to the link I posted above and you will see a pic of EXACTLY what you saw on the car you are looking to buy.

And just so you know it is an ACCEPTABLE induction setup.

unit213

<small>[ April 08, 2003, 05:01 AM: Message edited by: unit213 ]</small>

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Alright! Thanks guys for all the help. Now that I've got that out of the way, time for me to start reading up on these cars. Big different between the T/A and the car i have now. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Chris99WS6PWTMET

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by unit213:
<strong> Ok, so I forgot about that one. Maybe the word "acceptable" was a poor choice. Take it easy. Just trying to help out a fellow board member here.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"> This is most likely what this kid was looking at. Is it making sense yet? With almost 2000 posts, I would think you would be more up on this stuff. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I don't really appreciate that remark either. Since I have a Z28, I don't focus much on stuff out of that realm. I obviously missed one here. Sue me. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The winking smiley indicates I was joking with you. Lighten up Francis.