Generation III Internal Engine 1997-2006 LS1 | LS6
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Need help with 5.3 stroker motor

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-06-2009, 10:30 AM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
jonathansjeep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Need help with 5.3 stroker motor

I have a 5.3 that I am currently building and am wanting to get 11:1 to 12:1 compression, naturally aspirated. Is pop up pistons the only way to go? Can I use the crank from a 6.0 to stroke it?

Can my standard aluminum truck heads be ported to flow as good as a Ls6 head?

Thanks for the help
Old 06-06-2009, 10:52 AM
  #2  
TECH Fanatic
 
Old SStroker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,979
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by jonathansjeep
I have a 5.3 that I am currently building and am wanting to get 11:1 to 12:1 compression, naturally aspirated. Is pop up pistons the only way to go? Can I use the crank from a 6.0 to stroke it?

Can my standard aluminum truck heads be ported to flow as good as a Ls6 head?

Thanks for the help
6.0L has same stroke as 5.3 and 5.7 and 6.2.

You could have 5.3 heads ported and they MIGHT do as well as a stock LS6 head. It depends on who does the work. It's usually less expensive to buy LS6 heads (243 casting), have a good valve job done and call it a day.

Why 12:1 compression? For that matter if you are going to be replacing pistons, etc. why start with a 5.3? Buy a 6.0 from a salvage/recyclling yard. What is the engine going into and what do you want it to do? Is there a budget for this build?


Jon
Old 06-06-2009, 12:43 PM
  #3  
13 Second Truck Club
iTrader: (17)
 
726.0chevelle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: baton rouge
Posts: 637
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

i believe the 4.8l [they are flat tops] truck pistons will work in the 5.3 and they are flat tops the truck heads can flow just as much or more as the stock 243s main thing is the 5.3 heads have smaller intake valves get a set of 2.00" valves cut in and they will be close to 243s
Old 06-06-2009, 01:35 PM
  #4  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (7)
 
nastychevelle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: troy, IL
Posts: 934
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

they make forged pistons for the 5.3 now..... but if its a budget the 4.8 pistons do work and are flat tops ... ported 5.3 heads with a good valve job and 2.02/1.60 valves will flow pretty good but TF 205's are def. worth looking at

https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...205-heads.html
Old 06-06-2009, 11:30 PM
  #5  
TECH Fanatic
 
Old SStroker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 1,979
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by 726.0chevelle
i believe the 4.8l [they are flat tops] truck pistons will work in the 5.3 and they are flat tops the truck heads can flow just as much or more as the stock 243s main thing is the 5.3 heads have smaller intake valves get a set of 2.00" valves cut in and they will be close to 243s

Which casting numbers flow "just as much or more as the stock 243s"?

Installing 2.00 intakes in 5.3 heads will NOT make them "close to 243s".

Where did you get that info?

It's not nice to mislead folks. Besides it makes you look, well...not very bright.


Jon
Old 06-07-2009, 09:17 AM
  #6  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (7)
 
nastychevelle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: troy, IL
Posts: 934
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

you could put a 4" stroke in there i think there is a set of forged pistons for a 5.3 with a 4" stroke somewhere....

here i found this...
Wiseco released a new line of forged pistons for the 5.3L Bore about 3rd quarter 08 and they are a stocked on the shelf piston. About $600

Wiseco Forged Piston Set, Your Choice of 3.780" or 3.800" Bore Size, 4.000" Stroke, 6.125" Rod Length, 1.110" CH, -7cc Dished

K473XS 3.780 bore (359ci)
K473X2 3.800 bore (363ci)

More details here... Go to the top of page 17 in the PDF

http://www.wiseco.com/Catalogs/Automotive/Chevrolet.pdf
either way its gonna put some decent numbers down low
Old 06-07-2009, 09:45 AM
  #7  
Teching In
iTrader: (8)
 
LSXDoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

if your not on a budget, bore that block out to LS1 specs, get a 4" crank and some LS1 stoker pistons and make that a 383 stroker!
Old 06-07-2009, 09:53 AM
  #8  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (7)
 
nastychevelle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: troy, IL
Posts: 934
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by LSXDoc
if your not on a budget, bore that block out to LS1 specs, get a 4" crank and some LS1 stoker pistons and make that a 383 stroker!
or if your not on a budget do something no one has done (or at least very few) and put a 4" crank with forged pistons and rods with a set of TF 205's, a custom cam and a ported fast and lay down ungodly numbers that no one has ever seen out of a 5.3
Old 06-07-2009, 10:24 AM
  #9  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (42)
 
slt200mph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: HOT'LANA, GAWJA
Posts: 7,067
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

I have been running a set of cnc ported 5.3 TEA heads that have been milled .... they flow 316 on the intake side at .600 lift and the compression is 11.5 ... it is a heads/cam bolt on daily driver that makes 452 rwhp/ 418 rwtq ... Brian Tooley does great work on the 5.3 heads...
Old 06-07-2009, 10:26 AM
  #10  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (7)
 
nastychevelle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: troy, IL
Posts: 934
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by slt200mph
I have been running a set of cnc ported 5.3 TEA heads that have been milled .... they flow 316 on the intake side at .600 lift and the compression is 11.5 ... it is a heads/cam bolt on daily driver that makes 452 rwhp/ 418 rwtq ... Brian Tooley does great work on the 5.3 heads...
the heads are on a 5.3?
Old 06-07-2009, 10:29 AM
  #11  
Teching In
iTrader: (8)
 
LSXDoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

putting a 4" crank in a 5.3L with no other modification makes it a 5.9L (5881cc), would be some awesome numbers though
Old 06-07-2009, 10:54 AM
  #12  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (7)
 
nastychevelle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: troy, IL
Posts: 934
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by LSXDoc
putting a 4" crank in a 5.3L with no other modification makes it a 5.9L (5881cc), would be some awesome numbers though
im thinking a 5.3 bored to 3.800 with a 4" crank (363ci) with a set of TF205 heads along with a fast 90/90 setup and a ms3 cam (237/242 .603/.609 112lsa) would be insane
Old 06-07-2009, 11:08 AM
  #13  
Teching In
iTrader: (8)
 
LSXDoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by nastychevelle
im thinking a 5.3 bored to 3.800 with a 4" crank (363ci) with a set of TF205 heads along with a fast 90/90 setup and a ms3 cam (237/242 .603/.609 112lsa) would be insane
yes, yes it would
Old 06-07-2009, 11:13 AM
  #14  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (7)
 
nastychevelle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: troy, IL
Posts: 934
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by LSXDoc
yes, yes it would
i just want to see someone do something different.... everyone builds a ls1 or lq4 not many people build a NA 5.3 especially to over 500hp so if you could do that it would be amazing

full setup right here of what i would do

5.3 block bored to 3.800
4" crank
forged pistons
milled TF 205's (12.5:1) < that has you thinking doesn't it
ms3 or similar cam (custom would be best)
vic jr intake with a 4150 style TB (maybe even a zex perimeter plate under that TB )
and SD tune for e85 (if e85 isnt for you go with 11.5:1 and run 93)

and if your against the vic jr just do a fast 90/90 (although i believe a vic would be cheaper and make more power)

Last edited by nastychevelle; 06-07-2009 at 03:31 PM.
Old 06-07-2009, 07:18 PM
  #15  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (42)
 
slt200mph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: HOT'LANA, GAWJA
Posts: 7,067
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by nastychevelle
the heads are on a 5.3?
They are on LS1 346 cu. in. ... 26.5 MPG on the highway 19.5 aound town and 188,000+ miles on the clock ... it uses 1/2 quart of oil every 5,000 miles... a mericle of modern engeneering ...



Old 06-07-2009, 09:38 PM
  #16  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (7)
 
nastychevelle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: troy, IL
Posts: 934
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by slt200mph
They are on LS1 346 cu. in. ... 26.5 MPG on the highway 19.5 aound town and 188,000+ miles on the clock ... it uses 1/2 quart of oil every 5,000 miles... a mericle of modern engeneering ...



exactly... his thread is about building a stroker from a 5.3L
Old 06-09-2009, 02:55 PM
  #17  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (7)
 
nastychevelle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: troy, IL
Posts: 934
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

bump... people need to see this
Old 06-09-2009, 08:35 PM
  #18  
Teching In
iTrader: (8)
 
LSXDoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

by the way, my 383 WAS a 5.3L, everything is forged, FAST 90/90, and the only thing left is a better set of heads and a tranny!
Old 06-09-2009, 10:53 PM
  #19  
Registered User
 
hummel25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

i also have a 5.3 that i want to stroke. my question is do i have to get the block clearenced if putting in a 6.0 crank
Old 06-09-2009, 11:13 PM
  #20  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (7)
 
nastychevelle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: troy, IL
Posts: 934
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by hummel25
i also have a 5.3 that i want to stroke. my question is do i have to get the block clearenced if putting in a 6.0 crank
a 6.0l crank is the same as the 5.3 crank guess you didnt catch this in the 2nd post
Originally Posted by Old SStroker
6.0L has same stroke as 5.3 and 5.7 and 6.2.

You could have 5.3 heads ported and they MIGHT do as well as a stock LS6 head. It depends on who does the work. It's usually less expensive to buy LS6 heads (243 casting), have a good valve job done and call it a day.

Why 12:1 compression? For that matter if you are going to be replacing pistons, etc. why start with a 5.3? Buy a 6.0 from a salvage/recyclling yard. What is the engine going into and what do you want it to do? Is there a budget for this build?


Jon



Quick Reply: Need help with 5.3 stroker motor



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:33 PM.