Patriot Heads? (not confirmed) went BOOM!
12-31-2010, 07:45 PM
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Patriot Heads? (not confirmed) went BOOM! Yup the title is right. My passenger side patriot head went boom.
Luckily the rest of the motor is fine. Cylinder made it without a scratch and I found all the broken pieces.
The heads didnt even have alot of miles on them since the motor only had 25000ish miles on it and was out of a 98 camaro.
What say ye patriot performance???
Luckily the rest of the motor is fine. Cylinder made it without a scratch and I found all the broken pieces.
The heads didnt even have alot of miles on them since the motor only had 25000ish miles on it and was out of a 98 camaro.
What say ye patriot performance???
12-31-2010, 08:17 PM
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Looks like the rocker arm mount in the casting failed. Incredible!
How much open spring pressure? Lots?
How fast was it spinning when it let go?
Was the port roof heavily reshaped from stock?
I'd be unhappy
How much open spring pressure? Lots?
How fast was it spinning when it let go?
Was the port roof heavily reshaped from stock?
I'd be unhappy
12-31-2010, 08:23 PM
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Not a single clue. Id guess bad casting since I had a pin hole in the cylinder 2 exhaust chamber which leaked coolant into the header. That was $200+ to get fixed.
Im not sure how much spring pressure there was but if my memory serves me well I was at about 3000 rpm when it completely went. The car ran terrible and made a horrible squealing sound.
I dont know what the specs were on the original stage 2 heads so I couldnt tell you if it had been ported more or not.
I am happy and mad at the same time. Happy I found what was causing all my problems but mad that it happened in the first place. I am just curious what patriot is going to say about all of this.
I dont know what the specs were on the original stage 2 heads so I couldnt tell you if it had been ported more or not.
I am happy and mad at the same time. Happy I found what was causing all my problems but mad that it happened in the first place. I am just curious what patriot is going to say about all of this.
12-31-2010, 08:43 PM
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Wanna know the best way to see what they have to say? Call them.
Dont be surprised if they dont bend over backwards for you now that youve tried to call em out in a forum.
On a side note, howd you find that pin hole?
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12-31-2010, 09:59 PM
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I never said anything bad about patriot and their products. I have nothing against them. I am just simply stating what happened.
Nothing more and nothing less. I won't be able to get a hold of patriot till Monday at best.
Nothing more and nothing less. I won't be able to get a hold of patriot till Monday at best.
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01-01-2011, 01:09 AM
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Pretty much. Just trying to be honest and state the facts.
01-01-2011, 01:16 AM
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Cant say I noticed any markings but I wasnt aware the early production ls heads even had said markings.
But I can tell you for certain that they are not stock GM heads since the motor was out of a 98 camaro and I have to use 2001+ valve cover gasket.
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01-01-2011, 01:35 AM
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I did get them second hand with the motor. I was told they were patriot heads by the seller (which didnt know jack about the motor btw) because thats what the previous owner of the car told him.
Cant say I noticed any markings but I wasnt aware the early production ls heads even had said markings.
Cant say I noticed any markings but I wasnt aware the early production ls heads even had said markings.
Or they aren't patriot heads.
they do look hand ported.
It could be a patriot head, does the previous owner have proof of purchase? Or did he buy them 2nd hand?
01-01-2011, 01:46 AM
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i'm not siding with patriot here, but that port you show either looks like its patriot head with extra porting/polishing to the port, I don't see any tooling lines from the CNC. But I see lines like a cartridge roll went through the port.
Or they aren't patriot heads.
they do look hand ported.
It could be a patriot head, does the previous owner have proof of purchase? Or did he buy them 2nd hand?
Or they aren't patriot heads.
they do look hand ported.
It could be a patriot head, does the previous owner have proof of purchase? Or did he buy them 2nd hand?
But as I said before the motor had 25000 miles on it. Previous owner gave me the vin of the car and a picture of the odometer and pictures of the motor removal.
since I got them second hand (third hand technically) I dont expect patriot to do diddly **** for me to be honest. Just thought a set of heads with that little amount of miles on them shouldnt blow up
And I know you some of you guys think its stupid of me to post about this without talking to patriot but this is one of those things that needs to be put out there No matter what!
The crappy part is I was going to bring the car with me to Germany for my tour but it looks like the car gets to stay home for the next 3 years.
Sigh
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01-01-2011, 04:51 AM
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He bought them second hand with the car. Original owner did all the work to the camaro. He was somewhere on the east coast if I remember correctly. Sold it to a guy in Indiana and said guy from Indiana wrecked the car ( side swiped by a semi) and I bought the motor and transmission from him to do the swap.
But as I said before the motor had 25000 miles on it. Previous owner gave me the vin of the car and a picture of the odometer and pictures of the motor removal.
since I got them second hand (third hand technically) I dont expect patriot to do diddly **** for me to be honest. Just thought a set of heads with that little amount of miles on them shouldnt blow up
And I know you some of you guys think its stupid of me to post about this without talking to patriot but this is one of those things that needs to be put out there No matter what!
The crappy part is I was going to bring the car with me to Germany for my tour but it looks like the car gets to stay home for the next 3 years.
Sigh
But as I said before the motor had 25000 miles on it. Previous owner gave me the vin of the car and a picture of the odometer and pictures of the motor removal.
since I got them second hand (third hand technically) I dont expect patriot to do diddly **** for me to be honest. Just thought a set of heads with that little amount of miles on them shouldnt blow up
And I know you some of you guys think its stupid of me to post about this without talking to patriot but this is one of those things that needs to be put out there No matter what!
The crappy part is I was going to bring the car with me to Germany for my tour but it looks like the car gets to stay home for the next 3 years.
Sigh