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Old 07-26-2009, 09:50 PM
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ok im tired and cant understand the book's examples, can anyone help its probably not too difficult i just dont get it
EX. 4x^2-32x+15, factor out completly??
this sucks
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Originally Posted by ramairracer
ok im tired and cant understand the book's examples, can anyone help its probably not too difficult i just dont get it
EX. 4x^2-32x+15, factor out completly??
this sucks
You can use the quadratic equation or factor by using the FOIL method backwards.

The quadratic equation gives you roots of 7.5 and 0.5, so your factors will be:
(x-7.5)(x-0.5). Notice that when you expand, this gives you the same result as if you divided your original equation by four.

Alternatively, notice that your first component (4x^2) can be formed by multiplying either x*4x, or 2x*2x, so the first part of each factor will be one of these. The last is a positive 15, which can be formed by multiplying 1*15 or 3*5.

Because the first term is positive (4x^2), the first terms in each factor must be either both positive or both negative. The last term is positive (15), so same case: the second terms must be either both positive or both negative. The middle term (-32x) makes the sign determination. In this case, it is negative, so your signs will both be negative.

Now you have to organize the possible factors and see which one will give you the original equation via FOIL (first, inner, outer, last). The correct one is:

(2x - 15)(2x - 1). Notice that if you divide by two, you get the same result as when using the quadratic equation.

Sorry for the lengthy reply; it's much easier to do this in person/on paper. Hopefully it was clear enough to help; it's been a while since I've taken an algebra class.
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yeah, i cheated through math class.....
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i wrote it all on paper etc, then he made his post. and his is already thought out and typed haha. But yeah, i would use the quadratic equation instead.
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Originally Posted by ryansm1
You can use the quadratic equation or factor by using the FOIL method backwards.

The quadratic equation gives you roots of 7.5 and 0.5, so your factors will be:
(x-7.5)(x-0.5). Notice that when you expand, this gives you the same result as if you divided your original equation by four.

Alternatively, notice that your first component (4x^2) can be formed by multiplying either x*4x, or 2x*2x, so the first part of each factor will be one of these. The last is a positive 15, which can be formed by multiplying 1*15 or 3*5.

Because the first term is positive (4x^2), the first terms in each factor must be either both positive or both negative. The last term is positive (15), so same case: the second terms must be either both positive or both negative. The middle term (-32x) makes the sign determination. In this case, it is negative, so your signs will both be negative.

Now you have to organize the possible factors and see which one will give you the original equation via FOIL (first, inner, outer, last). The correct one is:

(2x - 15)(2x - 1). Notice that if you divide by two, you get the same result as when using the quadratic equation.

Sorry for the lengthy reply; it's much easier to do this in person/on paper. Hopefully it was clear enough to help; it's been a while since I've taken an algebra class.
thanks for the effort, looks right, i ended up paying this smart girl to do it for me last night...
..it was a take home test btw
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Originally Posted by Blue85350
yeah, i cheated through math class.....

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Originally Posted by ramairracer
thanks for the effort, looks right, i ended up paying this smart girl to do it for me last night...
..it was a take home test btw
smart man
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lol.... im in calculus 3 right now and saw this thread, wanna trade classes?
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Originally Posted by TXjeepTJ
lol.... im in calculus 3 right now and saw this thread, wanna trade classes?
vector cal ain't ****. Mechanics of materials, thermo, fluids, or statics is where it's at.
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Originally Posted by TXjeepTJ
lol.... im in calculus 3 right now and saw this thread, wanna trade classes?
I took cal 3 and both physics classes at southplains when I was @ Tech. Much easier. Only time I got pulled over for no front plate up there was in Post and going to Levelland.
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I took cal 3 and both physics classes at southplains when I was @ Tech. Much easier. Only time I got pulled over for no front plate up there was in Post and going to Levelland.
lol yea I'm taking physics 2 and cal3 at a community college right now.


thats funny about the no front plate ticket in post/levelland. I got pulled over going 73 in a 70mph on the way there
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Originally Posted by TXjeepTJ
lol yea I'm taking physics 2 and cal3 at a community college right now.


thats funny about the no front plate ticket in post/levelland. I got pulled over going 73 in a 70mph on the way there
98% of my classes for that were fellow engineering students from tech. If I had known about taking classes there earlier I probably could have graduated a semester earlier.

Be careful about the cops up there. I almost had to get a lawyer on retainer to cover my tickets.
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That looks hard, I would just give up.
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I used FOIL

(2x-15)(2x-1)
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Thats really hard right there...a bit too advanced for me.




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