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Old 10-21-2010, 03:32 PM
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So I've just purchased an 06' Goat A-4 transmission, and already am itching to tear into her innards. I've decided I don't want to go as big a cam as I had with my Trans/Am (G5x3). Youtube has showcased many assorted speed shops cams with an array of exhaust setups. Anyway, I've liked the sounds of the TR228 on a 112 through Spintech Super Pros. I found another possibility in the Torquer v.2 TSP cam. I don't really wanna go over 600 lift as it's my daily driver, and don't wanna worry about going through valvesprings like a coke head does coke

Any thoughts on these cams? Or maybe other suggestions would be appreciated
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Spoke to Sean at Texas Speed and he informed me that running the Torquer V.3 (213/234 -643/598) would be the best. I do like that 111 LSA, and the lift numbers seem to be to my liking.
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I suppose it depends on the stall you are going with. I have the 228R and an ss3600. Great driveabilty.
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I heard the T2 has great drivablity manners, but I dont want to go against what Sean said.
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I have V.2 as long as you get a good street tune, it is not a bad dd cam. I dd mine for about 3 months, then I got another car.
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I have had a Torquer v.2 for 3 years now and the goat is my dd. No issue's with a decent tune .( not a few dyno pulls but a street tune )
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Originally Posted by GF7PE
I suppose it depends on the stall you are going with. I have the 228R and an ss3600. Great driveabilty.
I'm looking to go with at least a 3600, or if I can find it 3800. Do you have any videos of your car anywhere? I'm getting Spintech Super Pro Streets, but I'm always up for more camming vids.

Do you have any issues with bucking, falling flat on its face out of the hole, or the car dying once you put it into reverse too quickly?

None of those cams I listed are as large as the G5x3, and I feel I can get nice street manners with a small cam, get a great sound, and make around the same #'s with some good flowing heads.
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Originally Posted by ChefTA
I'm looking to go with at least a 3600, or if I can find it 3800. Do you have any videos of your car anywhere? I'm getting Spintech Super Pro Streets, but I'm always up for more camming vids.

Do you have any issues with bucking, falling flat on its face out of the hole, or the car dying once you put it into reverse too quickly?

None of those cams I listed are as large as the G5x3, and I feel I can get nice street manners with a small cam, get a great sound, and make around the same #'s with some good flowing heads.
I have 2 vids on youtube showing the difference between the corsa sport and corsa touring. I did raise the rpm a litte to get a better idle. search gf7pe

No issues with bucking at all. Never falls flat always super responsive. The reverse thing can happen. I've noticed it more while backing up. You need to keep a more constatnt throttle while backing. You you feather it wants to stall. My tune isnt perfect tho.
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Originally Posted by GF7PE
I have 2 vids on youtube showing the difference between the corsa sport and corsa touring. I did raise the rpm a litte to get a better idle. search gf7pe

No issues with bucking at all. Never falls flat always super responsive. The reverse thing can happen. I've noticed it more while backing up. You need to keep a more constatnt throttle while backing. You you feather it wants to stall. My tune isnt perfect tho.
In those vids, is that stock heads/intake?
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Of those two I like the 228R. Will have better mid range to get the car moving. However, like mentioned above, I like the Torquer v.3 cam above the others. More aggressive idle and good peak and mid range numbers. I'm always concerned about going to small on cams, so the TQ3 is my first choice. If you are worried about the lift or the aggressive idle, the 228R is the way to go!

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Originally Posted by Jon@Texas-Speed
Of those two I like the 228R. Will have better mid range to get the car moving. However, like mentioned above, I like the Torquer v.3 cam above the others. More aggressive idle and good peak and mid range numbers. I'm always concerned about going to small on cams, so the TQ3 is my first choice. If you are worried about the lift or the aggressive idle, the 228R is the way to go!

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Is the TQ3 too "agressive" for a L92 headed LS2?
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It's probably not the grind I would put with a L92 head. The PTV would be VERY tight as well.

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Originally Posted by Jon@Texas-Speed
Of those two I like the 228R. Will have better mid range to get the car moving. However, like mentioned above, I like the Torquer v.3 cam above the others. More aggressive idle and good peak and mid range numbers. I'm always concerned about going to small on cams, so the TQ3 is my first choice. If you are worried about the lift or the aggressive idle, the 228R is the way to go!

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I have no problems with the aggressive idle characteristics of the Torquer V.3
I don't want to go too small, and not be happy; thus opting to open the motor back up and do another cam swap When I can just use that money for heads

Could i do a custom grind 228/234 on a 113 598/612 lift? and get a similar idle of the TQ3. I don't remember the specs on the TQ3, but I can attest to the more aggressive idle
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I can grind any custom cam you want as long as the lobe profile is available. We don't charge any additional for custom cams or spec-ing custom grinds as well.

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Would the v3, coupled with a 3600 stall, super pro street spintech exhaust, ported LS2 intake, and a dyno tune yield me nice #'s? I'd like to see upper 300s or low low 400s before heads. Have you seen in cars with teh V3 a significant loss of low end tq after installing this cam in particular over the 228R?
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherLS2
In those vids, is that stock heads/intake?
yes. Corsa sport is a cold start.
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Originally Posted by ChefTA
Would the v3, coupled with a 3600 stall, super pro street spintech exhaust, ported LS2 intake, and a dyno tune yield me nice #'s? I'd like to see upper 300s or low low 400s before heads. Have you seen in cars with teh V3 a significant loss of low end tq after installing this cam in particular over the 228R?
I dyno'd bone stock 340hp 320tq last spring on a mustang dyno. i went back last weekend and dyno'd 376hp 339tq in 3rd no lockup mods in sig. I think the M6 guys are getting more than 420hp



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