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Old 11-28-2010, 10:24 AM
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I just have a general question about tires.

I have all season tires on my rwd dd car but the rear tires aren't in that good shape.

I was thinking of getting blizzak snow tires for the rear and maybe a duh question but is it a bad idea to have snow tires in the back and all season tires in the front?

Could it cause a problem for the car since rear tires are meant for snow and front tires aren't?
Old 11-28-2010, 11:21 AM
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thats what my winter setup-up consists of and i have driven it two winters so far. this will be the third and it seems to do fine
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Most tire sites recommend that you use the Blizzaks, Graspics, etc, in sets of 4, due to their "unique" handling characteristics. If you're on a "budget", I'd suggest 4 Firestone Winterforce tires. 3 of those will probably be the same cost of 2 Blizzaks, so it would cost only a little moe to have a full set of them, compared to 2 Blizzaks...
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i have the winterforce tires on the back. they do great
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What size of the Firestones are you guys running on 16's?


I just swapped to my winter salad shooters and need some snow tires for them
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215/60R16

i went with the theory of "smaller contact patch will have more traction on ice" they do AMAZING on snow.
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
Most tire sites recommend that you use the Blizzaks, Graspics, etc, in sets of 4, due to their "unique" handling characteristics.
What I been reading online too.

Originally Posted by 67goatman455
215/60R16

i went with the theory of "smaller contact patch will have more traction on ice" they do AMAZING on snow.

Thats what I was thinking of doing, but would all season tires in the front "run away" while the rear ones hold traction?
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Originally Posted by bad_408_vert
What I been reading online too.




Thats what I was thinking of doing, but would all season tires in the front "run away" while the rear ones hold traction?
After posting my reply yesterday, I saw your location...NYC. Do you really get that much snow? I live smack in the middle of the "snow belt", consequently I assume when people ask about snow tires, I think 10-12 feet of snow per season, what I have to deal with.

Although I've been in this area most of my life, I'm originally from Jersey, across the river from Staten Island. From what my relatives tell me, you guys down there get an inch or two, and everything shuts down. Therefore, you may be able to get away with a good set of aggressively treaded "all season" tires.
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I have firestone winterforce on my gtp. They do great untill I get into boost.lol But they are very nice for the price. Plus you can stud them.
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Originally Posted by bad_408_vert
What I been reading online too.




Thats what I was thinking of doing, but would all season tires in the front "run away" while the rear ones hold traction?
Im not sure....i wasnt trying to set any lap records while it was snowing. lol

but no they seemed to do fine.
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Originally Posted by leadfoot4
After posting my reply yesterday, I saw your location...NYC. Do you really get that much snow? I live smack in the middle of the "snow belt", consequently I assume when people ask about snow tires, I think 10-12 feet of snow per season, what I have to deal with.

herefore, you may be able to get away with a good set of aggressively treaded "all season" tires.
Yeah thats what I'm leaning towards as well. Last winter we got 3+ inches every time but in reality, I can't even drive the car if its anything more.

A good set of all season tires will suffice.

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Im not sure....i wasnt trying to set any lap records while it was snowing. lol

but no they seemed to do fine.
Hahaha thanks for all your input man, I'm gonna go with all seasons.
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The idea behind snows is to have the ability to stop and turn. Yes they are better for traction to get you going but that is not their sole design. Why be able to get up to 65mph quickly if you cant stop or turn to avoid having the accident? Yes it is better to run a skinnier/taller sidewall tire (smaller dia. wheel). You create a higher pressure point on the contact patch which allows you to cut through the snow better and get down to the asphalt. Wider tires act like snow shoes and ride on top of the snow. Could think of it this way too, if a lady steps on your toes in her gym shoes, its probably not gonna hurt. If she does the same in her high heels, alot different story. More pressure on the samller surface area when the weight is the same. I'd rather pay $500ish for a set of four snow tires than the $500 insurance deductable + tickets and vehicle repairs for crashing my car.
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Having a pair of snows on the rear will definitely help, but it's not as good as having them on all four - especially for stopping and turning as stated above. In area with minimal snow (Wichita has 15 inches a year average) I get by with 2/2. All four really help if it's deep or if it's icy.
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Snow tires on all 4. Sure its good to get going , but would you like to stop and turn? If yes get 4 snows. I live in a very snowy area to anyone who needs help with snow tires please give me a shout out. Blizzaks Rock for the snow.
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Would 215/65/R16 be ok? I found an amazing deal on some Firestone Winterforce tires.

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Im thinking 215's are a bit on the skinny side. But if thats what you'd want to run. Ideally a 215/60R16, 225/55R16, 235/50R16, 245/50R16 or 255/50R16 would be the sizes you may want to find. Im thinking 235-255 is where you want to be.
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So 65's would be too tall?
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Originally Posted by silversweetZ
Would 215/65/R16 be ok? I found an amazing deal on some Firestone Winterforce tires.
I think they would be great. They might be about 3% taller than the original tires but should fit fine. Your speedometer might read 1-2 miles per hour too slow, no big deal. Wide tires are BAD in snow, so 215 are good. I had 215/60/R16 on my old V6 firebird and 225/55/R16 Dunlop Graspics on my V8 firebird now, they work great. Try to get 4 if you can! Otherwise turning the steering wheel may loose it's effect in snow...
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I wasnt saying that a 215 wouldnt be great in the snow. Sure it'll slice right through it very well, but I was making my recommendation based on a 275/40R17 tire. If this car is a V6 model and came with something smaller, than goin all the way down to a 215 from say a 245 isnt so bad. You still want stabilty and a car originally set up for a 275 wide tire and 9" wide wheels still needs something substantial. A 275 down to a 245-255 tire is reasonable.



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