Pontiac GTO 2004-2006 - Decision between 2 06s




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rainman
02-23-2012, 09:49 PM
So I'm looking to get into a GTO. Two in my area that I'm going to check out in the next week, looking for thoughts from those that know these cars best. Both from dealers (#1 from a large dealership, #2 from a small little lot, if that matters):

1. 32,000 miles, $23k

2. 57,000 miles, $18k


I like the price of the second one better, as well as the color (maroon for #2, orange for #1). I do like the miles on #1 better. Thoughts on whether or not the extra 25k miles is a significant item?

I have a car to trade-in, so I'm looking to go the dealership route as selling my car seems like it will be a pain in the ass (high mileage '03 tahoe).

One general thought - these seem to be priced at or around NADA retail prices, whereas other cars I was looking at before were mostly right between clean trade-in and retail (335i, g37s, high-mileage CTS-Vs). Is this common (higher prices, relatively), or have I just seen some higher priced ones in my search?

Thanks in advance, looking forward to being in a goat eventually :chug:


gconnoyer
02-23-2012, 10:49 PM
I say go for #1 and jew them down on the price.

The brazen orange is just ridiculously sexy

04gto5.7
02-24-2012, 06:16 AM
i would have to say go with #1 the orange is really nice and you dont see alot of them. jew them on the price any mods on either... auto or M6


demonspeed
02-24-2012, 10:23 AM
I think both prices are a bit on the high side. I sold my MBM '05 with 40k miles in May of '09 for $17,250. That was high even back then, but it was 100% stock and mint.

leadfarmer153
02-24-2012, 10:29 AM
I'd go for less miles. Find something wrong with the car and low ball him. Let then know your looking at another gto for less $$. If they won't budge walk away.

leadfarmer153
02-24-2012, 10:46 AM
Kelly blue book on a 06 32000 miles is $20,800 from a dealer! The other at 57000 is a $19000 blue book. I use the Kelly Blue Book android app.

700rocket
02-24-2012, 12:22 PM
Asking 23 for an 06 with 32k is way out of line, I paid a lot less for mine with 11,800 miles back in 2008. I did buy it in January in Michigan too so I am sure that was a big reason for the price.

rainman
02-24-2012, 12:49 PM
I say go for #1 and jew them down on the price.

The brazen orange is just ridiculously sexy

Not a huge fan of it from the website pic's, but I was thinking that it could turn out to look really nice in person.

How far would you think I could get that $23k down (definitely not paying $23k)?

i would have to say go with #1 the orange is really nice and you dont see alot of them. jew them on the price any mods on either... auto or M

hmmm, 2 votes for the orange. Will definitely take a serious look at it. Both are m6. Orange one says it has borla exhaust. Maroon doesn't have much listed. It looks to have an aftermarket nav in it, so who knows what else.


I think both prices are a bit on the high side. I sold my MBM '05 with 40k miles in May of '09 for $17,250. That was high even back then, but it was 100% stock and mint.

Yea, both are listed high. Not planning on paying either sticker price.

Cars are in Houston, just for reference.

Let then know your looking at another gto for less $$. If they won't budge walk away.

That's the plan.

Kelly blue book on a 06 32000 miles is $20,800 from a dealer! The other at 57000 is a $19000 blue book.

Yea, GTOs seem to be priced higher relative to BB values than other cars I've looked at for some reason

Asking 23 for an 06 with 32k is way out of line, I paid a lot less for mine with 11,800 miles back in 2008. I did buy it in January in Michigan too so I am sure that was a big reason for the price.

Goes back to the relatively high prices of these cars around here. Not sure why.

leadfarmer153
02-24-2012, 12:59 PM
Always check blue book, then the dealer should always give a free carfax report. If they don't there is something on there they don't want u to see....repo, it was in a natural disasters area, an accident...etc.

I'd call the 32,000 miles dealer and get the base price to 20,800 and work them down once you get there. But $2000 more then blue book is nuts unless its got a lot of HP mods.

Death{AW}
02-24-2012, 01:10 PM
you should look at for sale section on ls1gto.com there are really nice cars stock and moded for less money than those 2.

leadfarmer153
02-24-2012, 01:22 PM
My 04 gto was $200 more then blue book from a dealer. One owner and garage kept it. Drove it less then 5,000 a year. Interior is in perfect shape and not a scratch on the paint. Not even on the back fenders where little rocks are bound to hit. I didn't have any room to talk them down even though I tried.

Hey if prices are high in your area drive outta state. I bought mine in VA. Paid MD sales taxes and tags through the loan. Dealer mailed me the tags and reg, never even had to mess with the DMV. Goodluck man, and remember car salesman in general are snakes. It's there job to take your money

rainman
02-24-2012, 01:37 PM
Always check blue book, then the dealer should always give a free carfax report. If they don't there is something on there they don't want u to see....repo, it was in a natural disasters area, an accident...etc.

I'd call the 32,000 miles dealer and get the base price to 20,800 and work them down once you get there. But $2000 more then blue book is nuts unless its got a lot of HP mods.

Sent them an email saying I'm interested but not going to come in for anywhere near that price. Asked what might be on the car to justify the price.

Though I'd like to have the lower miles, the other one is looking like a better bet. May just hold off altogether and keep up the search.


you should look at for sale section on ls1gto.com there are really nice cars stock and moded for less money than those 2.


I'll take a look, but if that's like this site, they will all be private party sales, no? I really don't want to deal with selling my car privately, looking to go through a dealer.

silver04goat
02-25-2012, 04:51 PM
You can definitely talk them down dont let the rarity of the car fool you. Took me three nights to negotiate on my gto but i got them to go $2600 below book value on mine and mine was in good shape. A 04 with damn near perfect interior and only 52K. If they wont make you the deal you want walk away I almost did and they called me and wanted me to come back to talk numbers some more. Good luck i love mine so far. It is my affordable dream car.

Death{AW}
02-25-2012, 06:35 PM
I would rather buy car from private party than a dealer. If you buying from owner he can tell you what was done to the car where it was done he can show your invoices. At dealer you buying car without knowing nothing about it.

scphilli
02-25-2012, 07:18 PM
+1 on both of the prices being too high. Shop around and be patient.

TriShield
02-25-2012, 07:56 PM
23k is hilariously expensive for the first one. Mileage is a preference, if you're going to hot rod the car then paying less for one with more miles makes more sense then paying top dollar for a pristine one only to deflate it's value with modding and beating on it.

demonspeed
02-25-2012, 09:34 PM
Mileage is a preference, if you're going to hot rod the car then paying less for one with more miles makes more sense then paying top dollar for a pristine one only to deflate it's value with modding and beating on it.

Well said.

rainman
02-26-2012, 09:13 PM
Thanks for all the input. $23k one sold before I could go in and try to talk them down.

$18k one has some issues. I'm just going to keep looking and expand my base. If I have to drive further to get a good deal, so be it.

leadfarmer153
02-26-2012, 09:53 PM
Wow, I hope that guy didn't buy it for $23,000.

Just keep looking. I looked for about 1 1/2 months before I found my 04 with 39,000 miles for $14,400. 05 & 06 outta my price range per month. Plus I figured for $4000-5000 more I could get 50 more HP outta the LS1 and after a few years, drop a more power engine, clutch and drive shaft in it. Hard to beat the 04's on the price. 5.7L 350hp is still a beast man.

redtan
03-02-2012, 01:00 PM
Thanks for all the input. $23k one sold before I could go in and try to talk them down.

Hope he didn't pay that much. Holy crap I paid $23k for a 21,000 mile '06 more than 4 years ago. The guys selling it are insane, or geniuses if they actually found someone to pay that kinda money in 2012.

pyroseth
03-02-2012, 07:56 PM
http://ls1tech.com/forums/vehicle-classifieds/1489448-06-gto-6spd-blk-int-13-700mi-like-new.html

sdbrown84
03-10-2012, 10:04 AM
Why do dealers think these cars are worth so much?

ULTIMATEORANGESS
03-10-2012, 11:58 AM
that orange is my favorite color for GTOs.


people were trying to low ball me when i tried to sell mine and that dealer overpriced theirs and it sold lol.

jmurray87
03-10-2012, 02:32 PM
Why do dealers think these cars are worth so much?

They know quite a few people are after them now and with them being a low volume production car they know they can get away with the high prices they want. Personally, I am glad to see them going for so much still keep the young idiots away from them.......:jest:

leadfarmer153
03-11-2012, 09:18 AM
Yep, I think they are under priced to...which is why I decided to get one. A muscle car frame with amazing seats all leather interior. Great sound sound...

I'm glad the dealers in MD haven't jacked up there price on them.

leadfarmer153
03-11-2012, 09:20 AM
I love um cause there rare and a sleeper. Can't tell you how many other muscle cars I've lined up against that had no idea what just keep up with them.

I get the head turn....like what is that??? Did that grand prix just take me. Hahaha

brandenash1
04-05-2012, 09:46 AM
Mines for sale. I'm Not really worried about selling it, so if i dont get the asking price ill just keep it...
http://houston.craigslist.org/ctd/2941322367.html.

branj70
04-05-2012, 11:11 AM
FWIW, I got my '06 with 55K miles for $16,250 cash

f4ll3nburr1t0
04-06-2012, 10:21 AM
ya just bought a blk 06 with 37 k miles and the following plus some for 18.5:
comp camshaft (custom grind)
holden wheels 18x8 chromed
hankook v12 tires 245 40 18
pedders strut spring suspension with 1 in drop
oversized pedders swaybars (adjustable)
polymounted control arms, all bushings, subframe mounts
gto 8.8 rear conversion (diff,housing) http://www.easttexasmusclecars.com/products/gto/drivetrain/ds3.htm
Custom stage 3 axles from driveshaft shop
detroit locker
arp head bolts
short shifter with shift knob
monster stage 3 clutch with 28lb flywheel
Air Flow Research cylinder heads
titanium valve train components with shot peened pushrods
kook exhaust headers
magnaflow high flow cats
spintech dual tip side cut exhaust system
sidecut rockerpannels
rear bumper trim insert (painted)
moroso oil catch cam
moroso coolant overflow tank
102mm FAST intake manifold
42lb fuel injectors
flashed program
Custom A piller pod with oil pressure,fuel pressure, widebald airfuel ratio gauge
front lip kit from JHP
pedders close ratio power steering rack
optima red top battery
ssbc rotors all around with hawk pads
stainless steel braided brake lines and clutch lines with slave cylinder
chassis braces
all synthetic fluids

and much much more.
i had to choose between that one and a beautiful local Midnight blue 05 for 22 with 41k miles.. told hime 19 cash was my final offer, he said no so i got on the plane and picked her up!

O-FiveCC
04-07-2012, 06:44 PM
I flew out 1000 miles to get mine. I got my 2005 with 59k miles for $11.5k. It had been repossesed at one point. Also, I think the the previous owner spun out and clipped something with the back end. However, the car had been fixed and looked great. No problem's with it yet. I like to take it to the track though, so I didn't want to buy an expensive, low mileage car.