View Full Version : Cartuning Trans Pan Spacer and filter adapter


supercatxr7
07-10-2012, 10:07 AM
Just put in the prototype trans pan spacer from Kevin at Cartuning. This 1" spacer essestially makes your existing stock trans pan a "deep" pan adds around 2 quarts. Reason Kevin made this was we were having an issue with 3rd gear clutches slipping under WOT on my car. We found that we were intermittently losing line pressure under WOT after hooking up a trans pressure gauge to the car. This was related to losing ability to pull fluid from pan due to g force. We found that adding slighltly more fluid to the trans helped somewhat, but still did not solve the problem. Kevin ended up making the spacer as well as an adapter that also lowers the trans filter. Spacer will work on all W-Body V8 and V6 applications. Simply put, problem solved!

Kevin can be contacted for more info/interest: kevin@cartuning.ca

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blkchevyz
07-10-2012, 10:19 AM
looks nice but wouldnt it of been easier to just make a new pan than a spacer? thats makes 2 mounting surfaces you have to worry about, plus that looks like some thick metal. i guess for a one off this would be easier, but i'd think mass production a pan would be simpler.


did you have to extend the filter/pickup down?

supercatxr7
07-10-2012, 12:32 PM
Gaskets seal just fine, no leaking issues at all. These factory pan gaskets are somewhat thick and a metal/rubber mix and reusable.

Yes, there is a filter adapter that lowers the filter down into the pan.

Mels SS
07-10-2012, 03:22 PM
How much did you spend?

supercatxr7
07-10-2012, 09:51 PM
Just my time to install and test. Contact Kevin if you have interest in purchasing one.

1CL3ANSUP3RSPORT
07-10-2012, 11:40 PM
How many more quarts are added 1-2?

91parkave
07-11-2012, 12:02 PM
249 usd orders can be placed through email I contacted Kevin already about it

GTPpower
07-12-2012, 08:32 AM
Does it come with everything needed? I've been talking to him about this and his 3rd gear clutches for a long time, and trying to put together a decent sized order. He's so damn hard to get a hold of.

91parkave
07-12-2012, 12:45 PM
Does it come with everything needed? I've been talking to him about this and his 3rd gear clutches for a long time, and trying to put together a decent sized order. He's so damn hard to get a hold of.

yea i had a petty rough experience a coupe years back but thiis time he answered my emails in a hour this time.

Dom87SS
07-12-2012, 03:14 PM
3rd gear slipping is a big issue with these trans as ive heard from a trans guy who has been investigating them in duty use (cop cars, etc) and was working on a few ideas as well to help this issue out.

Sadden
07-12-2012, 08:56 PM
Seems to me like the zzp pan is a better option.

1) One gasket
2) Cast alumnium as opposed to a steel pan
3) Finned
4) Adds a drain plug
5) And costs 50$ less.

Im not an advocate for zzp. Especially for our cars , but that is one part of theirs that i feel is really worth the money.

supercatxr7
07-13-2012, 01:56 AM
zzp pan adds no extra fluid capacity.

91parkave
07-13-2012, 05:20 AM
Seems to me like the zzp pan is a better option.

1) One gasket
2) Cast alumnium as opposed to a steel pan
3) Finned
4) Adds a drain plug
5) And costs 50$ less.

Im not an advocate for zzp. Especially for our cars , but that is one part of theirs that i feel is really worth the money.

ZZP did well with the trans temp aspect but did not engineer there pan to handle fluid sloshing around as the car moves under power. The real benefit is the trans filter being lower in the pan and able to constantly pickup fluid no matter how the car is moving.

Sadden
07-13-2012, 04:52 PM
zzp pan adds no extra fluid capacity.


Yes they do. They are deeper than stock.

Yeah i lime the fact that it moves the filter down. Will that spacer be available seperately

Tengis
07-13-2012, 11:04 PM
Expensive as shit for a spacer and what is basically a filter extension.
If it actually helps then it should be worth it.

supercatxr7
07-15-2012, 12:13 AM
How many more quarts are added 1-2?

Around 2 quarts with the 1" spacer. I believe the final spacers will be around 3/4".

supercatxr7
07-15-2012, 01:24 AM
Yes they do. They are deeper than stock.

Yeah i lime the fact that it moves the filter down. Will that spacer be available seperately

Nowhere on the zzp site do they say the pan is deeper than stock or adds capacity. If that was the case as a vendor I would absolutely make that known. Do you have a zzp pan if so how much additional fluid did it add? I'm guessing zero or very little at all.

The filter spacer? Spacer will not work with stock pan.

BlackImpSS
07-15-2012, 08:08 AM
The one on the ZZP website states it is stock dimensions. The only thing different is the added 1/2" fins to help with heat removal.

Tengis
07-15-2012, 11:11 AM
The fact of the matter is that... Im partially blown away that Kevin at Cartuning actually responds to and/or has customer service towards the V8 FWD community. In the V6 community he seems to pretty much be known as an asshole that doesnt care about anything once he gets your money.

MillerMonteSS
07-16-2012, 03:50 AM
The fact of the matter is that... Im partially blown away that Kevin at Cartuning actually responds to and/or has customer service towards the V8 FWD community. In the V6 community he seems to pretty much be known as an asshole that doesnt care about anything once he gets your money.

This surprises me. I had GREAT customer service from him. I called him about 20 times during my install just to make sure I was doing it right. Of course, I am part of the V8 FWD community. I searched for a Canadian version of the Better Business Bureau and I couldn't come up with anything before I bought the kit. It was through the V6 community that I finally decided to risk the $$$ to buy it. I'm glad that I did risk it. It's the best thing that I have ever done with my car. I am glad that he is still coming up with improvements to our platform too. Supercatxr7's YouTube video of 11:47 @ 127 was a huge factor in my purchase as well.

supercatxr7
07-16-2012, 07:49 AM
Same here. Kevin has always been available and extremely helpful with products purchased. I've purchased two turbo kits as well as transmission work, no issues ever.

KRG
07-16-2012, 10:50 PM
I've had good dealings with Kevin also. Always calls me back even on a weekend. I've ben waiting for this spcer for a while now, good to see he is getting it going. Only guy who does R&D on our transmissions anymore.

bahdeets
07-20-2012, 10:27 PM
Supercarxr7 - just got done watching all your video's on Utube- they were fantastic!! And exciting to say the least!! Great times! On your tranny spacer pan - did you have to notch your cradle to get it on. I put one on my car (24 mm thick almost 1") and I had to notch the cradle about 1/2" and 14" long and weld a brace to fill the space to make it fit was wondering if you did also. Based on my calculations of the inside volume of the spacer I picked up a bit more the 3 quarts on mine. Did you calculate the 1-2 quarts or just add to fill and that is how much it took? I should have my damper in a week or so and will let you know when I get it. I sent a PM but maybe you did not get it.

supercatxr7
07-21-2012, 11:06 PM
Supercarxr7 - just got done watching all your video's on Utube- they were fantastic!! And exciting to say the least!! Great times! On your tranny spacer pan - did you have to notch your cradle to get it on. I put one on my car (24 mm thick almost 1") and I had to notch the cradle about 1/2" and 14" long and weld a brace to fill the space to make it fit was wondering if you did also. Based on my calculations of the inside volume of the spacer I picked up a bit more the 3 quarts on mine. Did you calculate the 1-2 quarts or just add to fill and that is how much it took? I should have my damper in a week or so and will let you know when I get it. I sent a PM but maybe you did not get it.

Thank you Sam, I look forward to seeing your car once you have it here.

On the 1" spacer Cartuning made for me I did not have to notch the cradle to get it on. I removed the driver side subframe bolts and put a jack under the oil pan to move the engine/trans up about an inch for install. This allowed for me to slide in the 1" spacer and bolt it up. I had to trim the lip of my trans oil pan down the side that goes along the subframe. For LS4 cars the spacer from Cartuning will more than likely be 3/4" as the 1" spacer is slightly close to the subframe on my car. This was the prototype for test fit. Around 2 quarts was added. Did your guy make an adapter to lower your filter as well? Need to get that filter lower in the pan. Got your PM on the damper, busy with work lately.

bahdeets
07-23-2012, 06:01 AM
Mark: I designed my spacer and extension myself and contracted out the machining. The spacer is 24 mm just under an inch by a few thousands of an inch. The extension was made from a piece of 6061 T6 aluminum bar. The extension was made to drop the filter down exactly the 24 mm also. The spacer utilizes the small adaptor with that rubber seal both on the tranny and one was machined into the end of adaptor so the filter fits into the extension just like it would fit into the tranny. A template of the gasket was used to make the outline of the spacer with .090" added to the width of the spacer on both the inside and the outside totally 3/16" overall. Then the spacer was anodized blue. But no matter what we did the cradle had to be notched to make the spacer fit. I have a cast aluminum pan and it is a bit wider at the lip making things even worse for spacing. That lip is right at the cradle when assembled - I had no alternative but to notch. Will keep you updated on the damper. I am hoping it ships to me this week or next.