Cartek looking to hit 10.6 with bolt ons
05-08-2002, 07:04 AM
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Cartek looking to hit 10.6 with bolt ons I posted this in the lounge, but maybe this is a better place for it as I have not had any responses in the lounge.
I just got my High Performance Pontiac Mag in the mail. There is a article about a Cartek project Trans Am with bolt ons that dynoed at 441 RWHP naturally aspirated stock cubes. This is a direct quoate from the magazine
"The final product looks completely stock, right down to the mass air meter. This Firebird weighs 3350 pounds in race trim (without driver) and Cartek is looking for 10.60 ETs at over 125 mph with its cam and head package with an automatic transmission. Dave Busch's prototype for this package has already gone 10.80 @ 123 mph and is making 35 RWHP less than the latest version in our subject vehicle."
My question is what is the Dave Busch prototype they are talking about? I didn't know Cartek had a car that ran in the 10's NA with bolt ons and stock cubes.
Did anybody else see this article?
I just got my High Performance Pontiac Mag in the mail. There is a article about a Cartek project Trans Am with bolt ons that dynoed at 441 RWHP naturally aspirated stock cubes. This is a direct quoate from the magazine
"The final product looks completely stock, right down to the mass air meter. This Firebird weighs 3350 pounds in race trim (without driver) and Cartek is looking for 10.60 ETs at over 125 mph with its cam and head package with an automatic transmission. Dave Busch's prototype for this package has already gone 10.80 @ 123 mph and is making 35 RWHP less than the latest version in our subject vehicle."
My question is what is the Dave Busch prototype they are talking about? I didn't know Cartek had a car that ran in the 10's NA with bolt ons and stock cubes.
Did anybody else see this article?
05-08-2002, 07:19 AM
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Re: Cartek looking to hit 10.6 with bolt ons I thought Dave's car went 10.98, and it wasn't a bolt on car. It was heads/cam car. If Cartek has a 10.80 Trans Am out there, we haven't seen it on this board.
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Re: Cartek looking to hit 10.6 with bolt ons </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by T/A Fan Dan:
<strong>Cartek is looking for 10.60 ETs at over 125 mph with its cam and head package with an automatic transmission. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Um thats a heads and cam car...not boltons <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
<small>[ May 08, 2002, 07:24 AM: Message edited by: Fireball ]</small>
<strong>Cartek is looking for 10.60 ETs at over 125 mph with its cam and head package with an automatic transmission. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Um thats a heads and cam car...not boltons <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
<small>[ May 08, 2002, 07:24 AM: Message edited by: Fireball ]</small>
05-08-2002, 07:42 AM
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Re: Cartek looking to hit 10.6 with bolt ons Maybe the mag misquoted them on the bolt on thing. But I still don't think Cartek has a 10.80 @ 123 mph H/C F-Body. Maybe Julio can clarify.
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Re: Cartek looking to hit 10.6 with bolt ons JS's car dynoed 441RWHP and has heads/cam and A4 but doesnt weight 3300pounds.
Not sure what is up with that, I am SURE we would have heard about it if a HCI car did run 10.6 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Not sure what is up with that, I am SURE we would have heard about it if a HCI car did run 10.6 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
cheers,
Chris
05-08-2002, 11:01 AM
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Re: Cartek looking to hit 10.6 with bolt ons Its my car.
The goal we have for the setup is 10.60's@123.
IMO it'll have to be a lighter guy in the car and run in good fall DA's for that to happen.
The car has a 10.9? NOW with me(344lbs)driving.
Truthfully though I need to get the car down to 3400 with driver for a crack at 10.6.I hope to get it to 3500 with ME in it by next week so yes 3400 should attainable with a 200lb driver.
Stay tuned....
JS
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1.47 Best 60FT
120.18 Best MPH
<small>[ May 08, 2002, 11:03 AM: Message edited by: JS ]</small>
The goal we have for the setup is 10.60's@123.
IMO it'll have to be a lighter guy in the car and run in good fall DA's for that to happen.
The car has a 10.9? NOW with me(344lbs)driving.
Truthfully though I need to get the car down to 3400 with driver for a crack at 10.6.I hope to get it to 3500 with ME in it by next week so yes 3400 should attainable with a 200lb driver.
Stay tuned....
JS
Cartek S2X
RW 3598lbs
11.17 Best ET
1.47 Best 60FT
120.18 Best MPH
<small>[ May 08, 2002, 11:03 AM: Message edited by: JS ]</small>
05-08-2002, 11:39 AM
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Re: Cartek looking to hit 10.6 with bolt ons </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JS:
<strong>Its my car.
The goal we have for the setup is 10.60's@123.
IMO it'll have to be a lighter guy in the car and run in good fall DA's for that to happen.
The car has a 10.9? NOW with me(344lbs)driving.
Truthfully though I need to get the car down to 3400 with driver for a crack at 10.6.I hope to get it to 3500 with ME in it by next week so yes 3400 should attainable with a 200lb driver.
Stay tuned....
JS
Cartek S2X
RW 3598lbs
11.17 Best ET
1.47 Best 60FT
120.18 Best MPH</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey JS thanks for the reply. Has your car already gone 10.9? or that is what you are expecting.
<strong>Its my car.
The goal we have for the setup is 10.60's@123.
IMO it'll have to be a lighter guy in the car and run in good fall DA's for that to happen.
The car has a 10.9? NOW with me(344lbs)driving.
Truthfully though I need to get the car down to 3400 with driver for a crack at 10.6.I hope to get it to 3500 with ME in it by next week so yes 3400 should attainable with a 200lb driver.
Stay tuned....
JS
Cartek S2X
RW 3598lbs
11.17 Best ET
1.47 Best 60FT
120.18 Best MPH</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey JS thanks for the reply. Has your car already gone 10.9? or that is what you are expecting.
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Re: Cartek looking to hit 10.6 with bolt ons </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Raughammer:
<strong>JS good luck with your car.
But this thread and that mag article all smack of "bench racing".
Shoudla', woulda', coulda'....my respect for high perf ponti mag just went down a notch. I think it's gay to post what they think it might run in a mag. Sorry, thats just my opinion.
Saying that they have already gone 10.8? Dang, thats just wrong.
So whats the big deal about going 10.6 at 123 or 124 or 125? Been there... done that.
Bolt on car? ROTFLMAO</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Neither Cartek or HPP said the car was bolt on that was my dumb inexperienced quote. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" /> I mis spoke when I titled the topic. Sorry guys for the confusion. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> I posted to try to get clarification on where this 10.8 sec stock cube NA Cartek car was coming from. I had not heard of it before.
<strong>JS good luck with your car.
But this thread and that mag article all smack of "bench racing".
Shoudla', woulda', coulda'....my respect for high perf ponti mag just went down a notch. I think it's gay to post what they think it might run in a mag. Sorry, thats just my opinion.
Saying that they have already gone 10.8? Dang, thats just wrong.
So whats the big deal about going 10.6 at 123 or 124 or 125? Been there... done that.
Bolt on car? ROTFLMAO</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Neither Cartek or HPP said the car was bolt on that was my dumb inexperienced quote. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="gr_emb.gif" /> I mis spoke when I titled the topic. Sorry guys for the confusion. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> I posted to try to get clarification on where this 10.8 sec stock cube NA Cartek car was coming from. I had not heard of it before.
05-08-2002, 01:31 PM
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Re: Cartek looking to hit 10.6 with bolt ons My apoliogies for the "bolt on" comment then.... thank you for the clarification.
Y'all take care...
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Y'all take care...
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Re: Cartek looking to hit 10.6 with bolt ons I have a personal goal also. It's ((JS+PSJ+NINEBALL)/3)-.001
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Re: Cartek looking to hit 10.6 with bolt ons </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have a personal goal also. It's ((JS+PSJ+NINEBALL)/3)-.001
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
Chris
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">ROTFLMAO!!!!!!
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Re: Cartek looking to hit 10.6 with bolt ons Joel, the reason guys are putting up the BS flag is not due to your goals for the car. It's that Cartek told them they already went 10.80 @ 123 with the same setup. If they're referring to Dave last year, the time was 10.98 @ 122.x, I believe. Almost 2/10's is rather significant at those levels...........I have to agree the article is misleading and probably needs a correction to be accurate.
On top of all that, the term bolt-on is being used, which is usually not associated with internal engine work.
<small>[ May 08, 2002, 12:09 PM: Message edited by: ONYXSS ]</small>
On top of all that, the term bolt-on is being used, which is usually not associated with internal engine work.
<small>[ May 08, 2002, 12:09 PM: Message edited by: ONYXSS ]</small>
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Re: Cartek looking to hit 10.6 with bolt ons </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by ONYXSS:
<strong>Joel, the reason guys are putting up the BS flag is not due to your goals for the car. It's that Cartek told them they already went 10.80 @ 123 with the same setup. If they're referring to Dave last year, the time was 10.98 @ 122.x, I believe. Almost 2/10's is rather significant at those levels...........I have to agree the article is misleading and probably needs a correction to be accurate.
On top of all that, the term bolt-on is being used, which is usually not associated with internal engine work.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks for clearing that up. JL you are running some impressive numbers. Good luck with your goals and weight reductions.
Dan
<strong>Joel, the reason guys are putting up the BS flag is not due to your goals for the car. It's that Cartek told them they already went 10.80 @ 123 with the same setup. If they're referring to Dave last year, the time was 10.98 @ 122.x, I believe. Almost 2/10's is rather significant at those levels...........I have to agree the article is misleading and probably needs a correction to be accurate.
On top of all that, the term bolt-on is being used, which is usually not associated with internal engine work.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks for clearing that up. JL you are running some impressive numbers. Good luck with your goals and weight reductions.
Dan
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Re: Cartek looking to hit 10.6 with bolt ons JS good luck with your car.
But this thread and that mag article all smack of "bench racing".
Shoudla', woulda', coulda'....my respect for high perf ponti mag just went down a notch. I think it's gay to post what they think it might run in a mag. Sorry, thats just my opinion.
Saying that they have already gone 10.8? Dang, thats just wrong.
So whats the big deal about going 10.6 at 123 or 124 or 125? Been there... done that.
Bolt on car? ROTFLMAO
But this thread and that mag article all smack of "bench racing".
Shoudla', woulda', coulda'....my respect for high perf ponti mag just went down a notch. I think it's gay to post what they think it might run in a mag. Sorry, thats just my opinion.
Saying that they have already gone 10.8? Dang, thats just wrong.
So whats the big deal about going 10.6 at 123 or 124 or 125? Been there... done that.
Bolt on car? ROTFLMAO
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Re: Cartek looking to hit 10.6 with bolt ons </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JS:
<strong>Dave/John I cant comment on what someone else said.I know I never said anything to HPP Mag.
I have a personal goal.
10.9?@123 at 3500lbs.
Hope that clears this nonsense up
JS</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Your word is enough for me. Hey, good luck with acheiving your goals. It's going to be an interesting season this fall/winter. I wish I had the money to hang with the big dogs.
Again... good luck!
JC
<strong>Dave/John I cant comment on what someone else said.I know I never said anything to HPP Mag.
I have a personal goal.
10.9?@123 at 3500lbs.
Hope that clears this nonsense up
JS</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Your word is enough for me. Hey, good luck with acheiving your goals. It's going to be an interesting season this fall/winter. I wish I had the money to hang with the big dogs.
Again... good luck!
JC