$300 to convert my SS4000 to a PT4400, what do you think about that?
10-07-2004, 02:46 PM
#1
$300 to convert my SS4000 to a PT4400, what do you think about that? Well Ive had my Yank SS4000 up for sale for quite some time now and Ive had no luck selling it. I'd get bites here and there, but no one ever came through. The converter is set up for a LS1/200-4R, but Ive been told that if the hub was cut down, that it could fit any orginally equipped 200-4R vehicle. Ive also been told that it could be converted over to work with a 4L60E. Well, I finally got a hold of someone at Yank and they said that they could convert my converter over to a PT4400, but Im looking at $300! 
I also asked about having it worked on to work for a 4L60E and they said it was going to run me the same amount. Lastly, I asked them how much it would be to just lower the stall and cut down the hub and they said around $250. So whether I make it work for a 200-4R equipped car or a 4L60E/LS1 equipped car, I will be spending about the same amount of money. The cheapest thing to do is cut down the hub so that it will fit an originally equipped 200-4R vehicle, but then the only downfall on that is a 4000 stall is too much for those cars. So the stall would have to be lowered. So the easiest thing for me to do is have it reworked to a PT4400. The only thing that bugs me in the back of my head is that its not going to be the same. Yank says that they can do it, but for whatever reason, I think in the back of my head that its not the same. Kinda like...you buy a Z28, but you wanted an SS, so you convert it, but in the back of your mind you know its not a real SS, but it has everything that a real SS has. I dunno, what do you guys think I should do? Ive been trying to sell this converter for months now and I really want a PT4400. If you look at it in a different perspective, Im spending $1180 for a PT4400 because I paid $880 for the SS4000 and then add the $300 to make it a PT4400. I know theres not that much difference in price between the 2, but you have to factor in labor now to convert it over. The only other thing that I could think of is to take it to a reputable converter shop locally and have them lower the stall and cut the hub down and Im sure it will be cheaper.
I also asked about having it worked on to work for a 4L60E and they said it was going to run me the same amount. Lastly, I asked them how much it would be to just lower the stall and cut down the hub and they said around $250. So whether I make it work for a 200-4R equipped car or a 4L60E/LS1 equipped car, I will be spending about the same amount of money. The cheapest thing to do is cut down the hub so that it will fit an originally equipped 200-4R vehicle, but then the only downfall on that is a 4000 stall is too much for those cars. So the stall would have to be lowered. So the easiest thing for me to do is have it reworked to a PT4400. The only thing that bugs me in the back of my head is that its not going to be the same. Yank says that they can do it, but for whatever reason, I think in the back of my head that its not the same. Kinda like...you buy a Z28, but you wanted an SS, so you convert it, but in the back of your mind you know its not a real SS, but it has everything that a real SS has. I dunno, what do you guys think I should do? Ive been trying to sell this converter for months now and I really want a PT4400. If you look at it in a different perspective, Im spending $1180 for a PT4400 because I paid $880 for the SS4000 and then add the $300 to make it a PT4400. I know theres not that much difference in price between the 2, but you have to factor in labor now to convert it over. The only other thing that I could think of is to take it to a reputable converter shop locally and have them lower the stall and cut the hub down and Im sure it will be cheaper. Last edited by BlackBeaSSt; 10-07-2004 at 02:56 PM.
10-08-2004, 12:27 AM
#3
Really...I thought it was quite expensive. If you compare prices brand new, there is only a $60 difference. So the PT series parts couldnt be that much more expensive. I know labor is factored into it, but $240 worth. I dunno, I thought it was a bit pricey to me. But then again, I was told by Yank that to open up a converter and rebuild it, its $200 fixed. So if you added the fix labor cost to open and rebuild, plus the parts diffence, then it would add up to $260. I just wanna be sure that Im charged the correct amount thats all.
Those that have had your Yank converter converted over to a different series, please post the cost.
Those that have had your Yank converter converted over to a different series, please post the cost.
10-10-2004, 10:43 AM
#6
So do you think I should go for it? I think its really expensive, but in my situation with the rare setup I have, it might be the best option. But as far as the price goes, do you think its a bit too much? I could see paying the labor cost and the difference between the 2 converters new which would be $260.
10-10-2004, 03:40 PM
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If you really want a PT4400 (which you do) then do it, the money you spent for the converter is money alread spent. If you think its too expensive then try and sell it (which my numerous posts you cant) then either way you will have to pay some money to get what you want.
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10-10-2004, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackBeaSSt
Really...I thought it was quite expensive. If you compare prices brand new, there is only a $60 difference. So the PT series parts couldnt be that much more expensive. I know labor is factored into it, but $240 worth. I dunno, I thought it was a bit pricey to me.
10-12-2004, 10:46 AM
#12
Do you happen to know all the differences between the PT4400 and my current SS4000? I wanna know what all is going to be changed. They said they can make my converter exactly like a PT4400 around the time that I purchased my SS4000 because they make/improve parts every 6 months. So when they convert it, it will be like a PT4400 around the time that I bought mine, not if I had bought it today. Whats up with that?
10-12-2004, 02:28 PM
#13
To change the converter to a PT4400:
New pump (totally different fin angles and clearances).
New stator (matched to the pump, totally different than SS stator).
New bearings (for different clearance heights).
2 hours of labor.
Since you are getting basically a brand new converter, consider $300 cheap. BTW, if this is going in a naturally aspirated LS1, it will be perfect. If it's going in a car with a power adder (turbo or nitrous), don't change it, there are better choices for forced induction.
New pump (totally different fin angles and clearances).
New stator (matched to the pump, totally different than SS stator).
New bearings (for different clearance heights).
2 hours of labor.
Since you are getting basically a brand new converter, consider $300 cheap. BTW, if this is going in a naturally aspirated LS1, it will be perfect. If it's going in a car with a power adder (turbo or nitrous), don't change it, there are better choices for forced induction.
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10-12-2004, 05:06 PM
#15
I talked to Mike personally at Yank and he said it was going to be around $250-$260 for the conversion. Its going in my naturally aspirated car. Im trying to hit 10s with stock heads and a completely untouched bottom end.
Are you sure about that because Mike was telling me that it would swapped over to a PT4400 as if I bought it the date I bought my SS4000 rather than if I had bought a new unit now. Does that make sense? In other words, its going to be set up as a PT4400 if I were to buy it the time I bought my SS4000 rather than if I bought it today and had October's updates. I would think that I would get the latest updates, why would Yank put old or outdated parts in my converter?
Originally Posted by Patrick G
Oh, and you'll also get the latest updates (as in October 2004) when you do the swap.
10-12-2004, 06:18 PM
#16
I wouldn't sweat it. Mike wouldn't build anything but the latest and greatest. If he's made updates to the internals of his PT4400s, I'm sure your's will get them. Besides, many racers were running 10s with stock internals using their 2001 model PT4400s. I'm sure your's will be more than up to the task. Don't give it a second thought. If you do, you'll just **** more people off, OK?
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