2000Hawk

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i was wondering i was considering the torquer cam and just started looking at the 230/224. i was wondering where does the cam really gives its power not in the RPM range i mean racing wise is it more of a low end or top end cam. any help would be great. thanks

luv2spd

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I believe the TR 230 is more of a top end cam. I think gears would be needed more with the tr 230 than with the torquer.

SouthFL.02.SS

Joel, have you seen the latest TSP 233/233 posts? Look in the dyno section. Cam looks good! BTW. I still have the parts you need! Hehe.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamometer-results-comparisons/241800-torquer-camshaft-dyno-results-within.html

Great tq. available by 3k rpms!

badpewter-z

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i have the tr230 right now
stock headed it was great awsome power pulls from 3000-redline(6800)
if you plan on going with heads id lean towards the torquer though. the tr230 doesnt have alot of lift compared to whats out there now

2000Hawk

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yea i have seen the dyno graph of the Torquer i just wanted to make sure i was getting the right cam for what i wanted. because i wanted some good torque to go with the power not get a ton of HP and the torque be non-exsistent. i wanted some mean low end torque and still have some sick power for later in the RPM. the specials for the holidays look damn good also.

dubs6

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do a search... we just put that cam in my friend will's car (txhorns281). feels strong on low rpms (not much different than stock) and then pulls real hard all the way to the top. i am looking at TR236 though. it makes the same power as the Torquer down low and even more up top from what i have found.

2000Hawk

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so dubs what you sayin that the torquer feels the same as a stock cam off the line or from a low roll. cause i want something that will kick me in the *** more than the stock cam would.

dubs6

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sorry i think you misunderstood... we put the TR 230 in my friends car

also if you look at the dyno's that TSP provided you can see the diff of true duals and how they move your whole powerband down the rpm band. so duals give you more tq sooner but doesnt rev as high

SouthFL.02.SS

^ Not necessarily, true duals adds meat to curve, but doesn't limit the top end.

DanZ28

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TR230 has about the same TQ down low as the TR224 does, but has a better top end. You don't need a high lift to make power especially if the heads don't flow as well. The TR230 got me 11.4's and I still pulled high 1.5x 60 foot times with my stock 3.23 gears. Out of all the TR cam's, the TR230 is my favorite and a decent DD cam, enen though I use the Trex now...

Dan

dubs6

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i didnt say it limited top end... what i said was you wont rev as high to get your peak. i was just comparing the two graphs that had the same cam and tuner and installer on similar cars. the one with duals pulled harder down low and made the same peak but about 300rpm sooner than the car with the y pipe.

dubs6

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I would definetly agree with you except i dont have an auto and on a stock 10 bolt the best i have gotten is a 2.07 60'. but as far as the cams go the TR224, TR230 and TR236 will all act the same up until about 5000rpm where everything changes. i personally want more power up top and i am getting my ls1 heads hand ported to match my cam so i am going with the TR236 to fully optimize my setup(the flow of my heads and true duals with QTP's and no cats). well it will be my setup next month.

SouthFL.02.SS

I maintain that TD's add power to the curve, but do not always shift the power peak lower in the rpm band. It happened in the 2 dynographs mentioned, but it's not always the case.

dubs6

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fair enough

DanZ28

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Yeah, your limited at the track with a stock 10 bolt on an M6. I to wanted more top end too, that's why I got the Trex and I now have a 12 bolt/4.11 gears and an M6. I lost some low end TQ with the Trex but gained 3 MPH and a tenth with my A4 setup over the TR230 with a worse DA..

Dan