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Old 06-01-2006, 12:41 AM
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I have the MS3 Cam Kit with the PRC Gold Springs (uninstalled) and I was looking at some heads from TSP, with the Competition CNC Valve Job:

TSP Heads

The specs on the MS3 Cam: 237/242 .603"/.609" 113 LSA

3 questions:

1. Will the MS3 Cam fit these heads without flycutting the pistons; is this a bolt-on with no modification required (02 Z06)?

2. Since I already have the cam kit with the PRC Gold Springs, hardened pushrods, retainers, keepers, etc... do I need to buy anything else (new valves, lifters) for these heads or will I just use the parts on the stock heads?

3. What kind of gains can I expect?

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Im sure somebody will answer this, but if you have real questions-concerns the best people to answer this is they guys at tsp, jon is a good guy and will gladly answer any questions you have. Oh while your in there might as well do new lifters and injectors. "Gains" since you have a 02 z06 id guess youd see somewhere between 75hp to 90hp increase prob more with proper tuning.

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Thanks... is Jon on this board? I've tried to call in the past, but I get the busy signal most of the time
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Originally Posted by pianoman90
I have the MS3 Cam Kit with the PRC Gold Springs (uninstalled) and I was looking at some heads from TSP, with the Competition CNC Valve Job:

TSP Heads

The specs on the MS3 Cam: 237/242 .603"/.609" 113 LSA

3 questions:

1. Will the MS3 Cam fit these heads without flycutting the pistons; is this a bolt-on with no modification required (02 Z06)?
YES, with stock valves, unmilled and stock gaskets.

2. Since I already have the cam kit with the PRC Gold Springs, hardened pushrods, retainers, keepers, etc... do I need to buy anything else (new valves, lifters) for these heads or will I just use the parts on the stock heads?
Lifters would be a plus since the heads are off. Either stock or Comp 850-16

3. What kind of gains can I expect?

Properly tuned anywhere from 30>40+ rwhp

Thanks.

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so your saying with the tsp ls6 ported heads with comp valve job and the ms3 hes only goin to see 30-40 rwhp with a proper tune?? That sounds awefully low, maybe with the ms3 and a proper tune hed see that. id add another 30 hp or more with the heads.
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Originally Posted by 1slowls1
so your saying with the tsp ls6 ported heads with comp valve job and the ms3 hes only goin to see 30-40 rwhp with a proper tune?? That sounds awefully low, maybe with the ms3 and a proper tune hed see that. id add another 30 hp or more with the heads.
He means 30-40 rwhp just for tune. your right.. my friend car is Camaro has MS3, ZO6 intake, Hooker LT, STOCK CLUTCH and tuned. he put down 397 rwhp.


Pianoman90. with MS3, heads, and tuned you should be over than +410 rwhp.

I think PREDATOR-Z has answer your questions very well.
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Originally Posted by 1slowls1
so your saying with the tsp ls6 ported heads with comp valve job and the ms3 hes only goin to see 30-40 rwhp with a proper tune?? That sounds awefully low, maybe with the ms3 and a proper tune hed see that. id add another 30 hp or more with the heads.
No, I'm saying that adding heads stage 1 to his cam only setup will see that much
30>40+ rwhp tuned (give or take a few)
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Originally Posted by PREDATOR-Z
No, I'm saying that adding heads stage 1 to his cam only setup will see that much
30>40+ rwhp tuned (give or take a few)
Yep, sounds about right to me
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Add that 30-40hp from the heads to the 40-50 from the cam and a good tune and your sitting at 70-90 more hp. I believe I read a post TSP made a while back about how they could bump up the compression on those heads some without sacrificing PV clearance with the MS3 cam. They also have a new smaller sized, higher lift cam (MS4??) matched with their PRC LS6 heads with higher compression that made 460/400+ in a 6.0L.

I would def. do some lifters and injectors while you are in there-get it all done and tuned once.

BTW it's nice seeing people actually MODIFY their Corvettes
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like the others said, 30 - 50 HP from teh cam, 30 - 40 from heads. Assuming everything is tuned, and all supporting boltons.
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I am doing the same exact heads/cam setup in my brand new TSP Forged 347ci engine that I am assembling right now. I won't have numbers any time soon but I expect around 450rwhp with everything I have below. Should be a nasty setup

I suggest new lifters, OEM or aftermarket. Your springs and harden pushrods are fine.
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Thanks guys...

Pianoprodigy, I challenge you to a dual



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